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> And, yeah, community input is bad. Was the community input to Robert Moses' NYC plans bad? * https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/apr/28/story-cities-32-

> And, yeah, community input is bad. Was the community input to Robert Moses' NYC plans bad? * https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/apr/28/story-cities-32-new-york-jane-jacobs-robert-moses https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/apr/28/story-cities-... How about to the Spadina Expressway in Toronto? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Road#Spadina_Expressway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Road#Spadina_Expressway * https://www.tvo.org/article/the-streets-belong-to-the-people-why-a-premier-killed-the-spadina-expressway https://www.tvo.org/article/the-streets-belong-to-the-people... * https://transittoronto.ca/spare/0019.shtml https://transittoronto.ca/spare/0019.shtml

rcpt 1y ago
Community input is bad. Maybe in the 50s things were different. But that was a long time ago and the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction. Robert Moses could not build today. Nobody can build today. Largely because we have given neighborhood busybodies veto power over all decisions. It's a disservice to the people when they democratically vote for something like a high speed rail and then never get it because the voices of local property owners matter more than that of the population.
- TulliusCicero 1y ago
  > Largely because we have given neighborhood busybodies veto power over all decisions. This is the real problem. There are forms of community input that are fine, but if you let local neighborhood councils veto any kind of building they don't like, they'll do just that.