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Wasn't sure what to call this, since mailing list entries don't really have a title to utilize. Hopefully this name fits guidelines well?

pvg 1y ago
It's usually just better to wait till the drama has some sort of external reporting because piping raw drama into HN makes for lousy HN threads. Then the title problem is someone else's problem. A shortcut version that works all the time 60% of the time is 'if you have difficulty titling it, it's probably not a great HN post'.
- cbondurant 1y ago
  Yeah that's a good point to keep in mind. Chalk this up to a learning experience I guess.
eyberg 1y ago
A better title might be "Kees Cook's account disabled for suspected malicious activity". He isn't exactly a random contributor.
- pvg 1y ago
  I think that's worse and is exactly the problem with these - it's one thing for Linus to be yelling at someone in on a mailing list (is he right? is he just mad? who knows? I imagine they'll sort it out!) and something completely different to plaster someone's name next to 'SUSPECTED MALICIOUS' across a popular nerd messageboard.
  - SilentLambda 1y ago
    I think the HN title was completely appropriate. Linus was not jusy yelling - (i.e.): "You seem to have actively maliciously modified your tree completely." - Linus Torvalds. Linus didn't even use the word 'potentially' - yet the HN title did. So get off the back of the person who created the HN alert!
    - pvg 1y ago
      The purpose of HN is not really 'alerts'.
      - SilentLambda 1y ago
        alert, inform, notify, announce ..... that's what HN does. How about refocusing your attention on the actual matter at hand. That is, Linus calling out Kees for being actively malicous. Personally, I would have contacted Konstantin privately to lock (at least temporarily) Kees account. Then I would have sought an explanation from Kees (on the mailing list), and waited for his response. And I would have done this before calling him out as being guilty of active maliciousness. Of course Linus love drama (especially drama that he creates.).
        pvg 1y ago
        what HN does. the actual matter at hand. That is, Linus calling out Kees That kind of 'matter' is not really what 'HN does' so it's not really 'at hand'. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22calling%20out%22%20&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

pvg 1y ago

It's usually just better to wait till the drama has some sort of external reporting because piping raw drama into HN makes for lousy HN threads. Then the title problem is someone else's problem. A shortcut version that works all the time 60% of the time is 'if you have difficulty titling it, it's probably not a great HN post'.

cbondurant 1y ago
Yeah that's a good point to keep in mind. Chalk this up to a learning experience I guess.

eyberg 1y ago

A better title might be "Kees Cook's account disabled for suspected malicious activity". He isn't exactly a random contributor.

pvg 1y ago
I think that's worse and is exactly the problem with these - it's one thing for Linus to be yelling at someone in on a mailing list (is he right? is he just mad? who knows? I imagine they'll sort it out!) and something completely different to plaster someone's name next to 'SUSPECTED MALICIOUS' across a popular nerd messageboard.
- SilentLambda 1y ago
  I think the HN title was completely appropriate. Linus was not jusy yelling - (i.e.): "You seem to have actively maliciously modified your tree completely." - Linus Torvalds. Linus didn't even use the word 'potentially' - yet the HN title did. So get off the back of the person who created the HN alert!
  - pvg 1y ago
    The purpose of HN is not really 'alerts'.
    - SilentLambda 1y ago
      alert, inform, notify, announce ..... that's what HN does. How about refocusing your attention on the actual matter at hand. That is, Linus calling out Kees for being actively malicous. Personally, I would have contacted Konstantin privately to lock (at least temporarily) Kees account. Then I would have sought an explanation from Kees (on the mailing list), and waited for his response. And I would have done this before calling him out as being guilty of active maliciousness. Of course Linus love drama (especially drama that he creates.).
      - pvg 1y ago
        what HN does. the actual matter at hand. That is, Linus calling out Kees That kind of 'matter' is not really what 'HN does' so it's not really 'at hand'. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22calling%20out%22%20&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...