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It’s far more bleak, what about the jobs that aren’t given? And the big unknown? Is this all just a fad? Who’s next on the chopping block? Etc.

ivape 1y ago
"... what about the jobs that aren’t given?" I guess I would have had to have paid a CGI studio to have made this for me once upon a time: https://streamable.com/xsiip5 https://streamable.com/xsiip5 Or at least a freelancer. So that's one person that's out of a job. That took about 5 minutes with Google Whisk. In fact, if you know a thing or two about 3D/compositing, let me know how much time and effort this would have cost in 2018 please.
- Aliabid94 1y ago
  Was there any trade off using AI? Like limit in customizability due to using prompts that would not be the case if you hired someone. Output video looks very cool
  - ivape 1y ago
    The trade off was I had to work with just describing it via text, but I suppose I would have had to describe it via text to a freelancer also and hope they get it. This will only get better is my point. I shouldn’t be able to get this kind of output without a professionals help.
vunderba 1y ago
I've said it before but one market that gets hit hard is the gig economy. The quality of generative AI may not be professional level, but it presents an easy drop-in replacement for one-off tasks that people previously outsourced to platforms like Fiverr (voiceovers, logo design, clip art, copy editing, translation, etc).
- Velorivox 1y ago
  I believe there is nuance here. Something akin to the 'last mile' problem in delivery exists in these realms as well — AI can get close, and usually even complete the task when the artifact is not the end product — but in cases where one does care about selling the output to others, AI can result in more gig work, not less. For example, many games that previously had no voice at all can now take a low-cost crack at voiceovers and, if it works, get professional VAs. Similarly people who would otherwise waste a long time in a back and forth can send AI generated concept art directly to a 3d modeler to model and rig. This reduces the risk of the transaction (will I get what I actually want?) significantly for these jobs. However, as with any other technological leverage, it will exacerbate the power law distribution. Once you know what you're getting and that it will be worth it, you're much more likely to hire better professionals and pay them more.
squidbeak 1y ago
Why would it be a fad if LLMs can do the work? They'll always be cheaper than human labor.
- devoutsalsa 1y ago
  Would you hire someone known to be a hallucinating liar?
  - A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago
    It is not intended as a wordplay, but if they are delusional, are they really a liar? I think our language may need to evolve a little, because we keep building new language of llms by anthropomorphizing them. They hallucinate. They lie. It is thinking. The worst part is that the imprecise language is here to stay the same way cyber came to mean something very different. So we are likely stuck with AI, hallucinations and all that silliness. And besides, corps have a record of hiring liars, delusional people and anything in between so the analogy breaks on every level anyway.
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- up-n-atom 1y ago
  Humans have guns. You must have been noticing the crime uptake everywhere. This is no coincidence and it’ll get worse and never better until the system is derailed. Not to say society will not change its viewpoint on human appreciation and humility, similarly in Japan where manmade has a greater appeal and respect for the sacrifice for one’s art. We’re not enslaved to the system but to our own desire for accomplishment. Being lazy for a day is fine but being lazy for life isn’t sustainable. There are only two avenues adulting humans can take, it’s either work (crime included) or substance abuse (drugs & alcohol).

ivape 1y ago

"... what about the jobs that aren’t given?" I guess I would have had to have paid a CGI studio to have made this for me once upon a time: https://streamable.com/xsiip5 https://streamable.com/xsiip5 Or at least a freelancer. So that's one person that's out of a job. That took about 5 minutes with Google Whisk. In fact, if you know a thing or two about 3D/compositing, let me know how much time and effort this would have cost in 2018 please.

Aliabid94 1y ago
Was there any trade off using AI? Like limit in customizability due to using prompts that would not be the case if you hired someone. Output video looks very cool
- ivape 1y ago
  The trade off was I had to work with just describing it via text, but I suppose I would have had to describe it via text to a freelancer also and hope they get it. This will only get better is my point. I shouldn’t be able to get this kind of output without a professionals help.

vunderba 1y ago

I've said it before but one market that gets hit hard is the gig economy. The quality of generative AI may not be professional level, but it presents an easy drop-in replacement for one-off tasks that people previously outsourced to platforms like Fiverr (voiceovers, logo design, clip art, copy editing, translation, etc).

Velorivox 1y ago
I believe there is nuance here. Something akin to the 'last mile' problem in delivery exists in these realms as well — AI can get close, and usually even complete the task when the artifact is not the end product — but in cases where one does care about selling the output to others, AI can result in more gig work, not less. For example, many games that previously had no voice at all can now take a low-cost crack at voiceovers and, if it works, get professional VAs. Similarly people who would otherwise waste a long time in a back and forth can send AI generated concept art directly to a 3d modeler to model and rig. This reduces the risk of the transaction (will I get what I actually want?) significantly for these jobs. However, as with any other technological leverage, it will exacerbate the power law distribution. Once you know what you're getting and that it will be worth it, you're much more likely to hire better professionals and pay them more.

squidbeak 1y ago

Why would it be a fad if LLMs can do the work? They'll always be cheaper than human labor.

devoutsalsa 1y ago
Would you hire someone known to be a hallucinating liar?
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago
  It is not intended as a wordplay, but if they are delusional, are they really a liar? I think our language may need to evolve a little, because we keep building new language of llms by anthropomorphizing them. They hallucinate. They lie. It is thinking. The worst part is that the imprecise language is here to stay the same way cyber came to mean something very different. So we are likely stuck with AI, hallucinations and all that silliness. And besides, corps have a record of hiring liars, delusional people and anything in between so the analogy breaks on every level anyway.
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up-n-atom 1y ago
Humans have guns. You must have been noticing the crime uptake everywhere. This is no coincidence and it’ll get worse and never better until the system is derailed. Not to say society will not change its viewpoint on human appreciation and humility, similarly in Japan where manmade has a greater appeal and respect for the sacrifice for one’s art. We’re not enslaved to the system but to our own desire for accomplishment. Being lazy for a day is fine but being lazy for life isn’t sustainable. There are only two avenues adulting humans can take, it’s either work (crime included) or substance abuse (drugs & alcohol).