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I think this is true on a deeper level. What do we measure progress by? The only thing people ever talk about as a measure of progress is the stock market. How

I think this is true on a deeper level. What do we measure progress by? The only thing people ever talk about as a measure of progress is the stock market. How much it's up, how much it's down. Nobody cares about the actual output of the economy at this point. It's all just number go up. It's not just the CEO's that can't hear anything over the record breaking profit. It's all of society.

ghusto 1y ago
I'm a little more optimistic, which is boosted by the change in levels of awareness I'm seeing in people around me (not just tech people). As much as I like to shit on gen-z, one great thing they have going for them is awareness and understanding at levels that were unobtainable for my generation, and it's trickling _up_ to the older generation. A good example: My generation always ended discussions of counter-productive change with "Well, that's progress!". Gen-z are asking "progress towards _what_?". People are waking up to the fact that common accepted "wisdom" can be questioned.
- zukzuk 1y ago
  You must be brushing up against a very different cohort than I. Sure, there are some very smart and aware gen-zs, just as there have been in every generation. But on average they are as ignorant as anyone else, with maybe a bigger than average bias for apathy.
  - gus_tpm 1y ago
    I know it's just hacker news, but I would like to hope. I am gen-z after all, and I have seen a lot more understanding from my friends lately. Obviously we are not better than anyone else, and everyone is different.
    - ghusto 1y ago
      > Obviously we are not better than anyone else, and everyone is different LoL, this is what I'm talking about, by the way :D Also, it makes us older folks uncomfortable in a perplexed sort of way. I mean, it's good, but ... we don't understand your understanding.

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I think this is true on a deeper level. What do we measure progress by? The only thing people ever talk about as a measure of progress is the stock market. How

by delusional 1y ago

ghusto 1y ago
I'm a little more optimistic, which is boosted by the change in levels of awareness I'm seeing in people around me (not just tech people). As much as I like to shit on gen-z, one great thing they have going for them is awareness and understanding at levels that were unobtainable for my generation, and it's trickling _up_ to the older generation. A good example: My generation always ended discussions of counter-productive change with "Well, that's progress!". Gen-z are asking "progress towards _what_?". People are waking up to the fact that common accepted "wisdom" can be questioned.
- zukzuk 1y ago
  You must be brushing up against a very different cohort than I. Sure, there are some very smart and aware gen-zs, just as there have been in every generation. But on average they are as ignorant as anyone else, with maybe a bigger than average bias for apathy.
  - gus_tpm 1y ago
    I know it's just hacker news, but I would like to hope. I am gen-z after all, and I have seen a lot more understanding from my friends lately. Obviously we are not better than anyone else, and everyone is different.
    - ghusto 1y ago
      > Obviously we are not better than anyone else, and everyone is different LoL, this is what I'm talking about, by the way :D Also, it makes us older folks uncomfortable in a perplexed sort of way. I mean, it's good, but ... we don't understand your understanding.