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I bet you can track those changes internally by looking at which VP/Director "won" an internal political struggle and wrangled the project away from others. As

by izacus 1y ago

I bet you can track those changes internally by looking at which VP/Director "won" an internal political struggle and wrangled the project away from others. As a result a new team takes it over and kills the old one.

spwa4 1y ago
Well what you're really seeing is the result of failed enshittification. Google (and Meta, and ...) built/bought these apps to start an enshittification cycle, and with communication apps it keeps failing, or at least not live up to search or social. So there's a constant fight about how to improve this, a fight which then turns into reorgs and chair dances. Then they fail again, and we do it again. And again. There's actual competition. Competition because, let's be honest, nation states are pushing their own internet apps where they are pushing propaganda (We're winning, Zelensky bad), instead of having "BUY THIS CRAP" every second post. And they often actually put some effort into it ("Zelensky bad, because of complicated historical/economic/... argument that we'll describe in 10 posts, 2 pages each, that you'll probably learn something from" [1][2][3] or "China is a great place to live. Don't mind all the people leaving, even leaving to fight for Putin because that's an actual improvement over China's rural cities' conditions or the many fuckups (how many times have all the fish in the Yantze suddenly died this year? I think we're already at double digits). China is the future!", because, like most governments, both the Russian and Chinese government are full of old, educated people) Not that the propaganda isn't getting worse too. Just look at rt.com's frontpage today vs 10 years ago. And they actually sound a lot less cringy than Musk does. [1] https://www.rt.com/russia/618284-what-russian-generals-are-reading/ https://www.rt.com/russia/618284-what-russian-generals-are-r... [2] https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/618333-joseph-brodsky-nobel-exile/ https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/618333-joseph-brodsky-nobel-e... [3] https://www.rt.com/business/616820-uae-ai-company-expanding-into-us-market/ https://www.rt.com/business/616820-uae-ai-company-expanding-...
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  > how many times have all the fish in the Yantze suddenly died this year? I think we're already at double digits Surely this is a misunderstanding. How do “all the fish” in a given river die once, let alone over ten times in a single year? Where did you get that information?
  - spwa4 1y ago
    That's a river that has upstream connections to other rivers and it's connected to the sea. Fish get replaced when they get eradicated by pollution, as regularly happens. Not that there's many left.

by izacus 1y ago

spwa4 1y ago

Well what you're really seeing is the result of failed enshittification. Google (and Meta, and ...) built/bought these apps to start an enshittification cycle, and with communication apps it keeps failing, or at least not live up to search or social. So there's a constant fight about how to improve this, a fight which then turns into reorgs and chair dances. Then they fail again, and we do it again. And again. There's actual competition. Competition because, let's be honest, nation states are pushing their own internet apps where they are pushing propaganda (We're winning, Zelensky bad), instead of having "BUY THIS CRAP" every second post. And they often actually put some effort into it ("Zelensky bad, because of complicated historical/economic/... argument that we'll describe in 10 posts, 2 pages each, that you'll probably learn something from" [1][2][3] or "China is a great place to live. Don't mind all the people leaving, even leaving to fight for Putin because that's an actual improvement over China's rural cities' conditions or the many fuckups (how many times have all the fish in the Yantze suddenly died this year? I think we're already at double digits). China is the future!", because, like most governments, both the Russian and Chinese government are full of old, educated people) Not that the propaganda isn't getting worse too. Just look at rt.com's frontpage today vs 10 years ago. And they actually sound a lot less cringy than Musk does. [1] https://www.rt.com/russia/618284-what-russian-generals-are-reading/ https://www.rt.com/russia/618284-what-russian-generals-are-r... [2] https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/618333-joseph-brodsky-nobel-exile/ https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/618333-joseph-brodsky-nobel-e... [3] https://www.rt.com/business/616820-uae-ai-company-expanding-into-us-market/ https://www.rt.com/business/616820-uae-ai-company-expanding-...

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
> how many times have all the fish in the Yantze suddenly died this year? I think we're already at double digits Surely this is a misunderstanding. How do “all the fish” in a given river die once, let alone over ten times in a single year? Where did you get that information?
- spwa4 1y ago
  That's a river that has upstream connections to other rivers and it's connected to the sea. Fish get replaced when they get eradicated by pollution, as regularly happens. Not that there's many left.