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> Basically by your exact same logic you're asking Walmart and Target to outsource their websites, which is completely insane. No, because Walmart website bein

> Basically by your exact same logic you're asking Walmart and Target to outsource their websites, which is completely insane. No, because Walmart website being down for months is just unthinkable. If a company is so incompetent/resource deficient/use your favorite phrase to describe it/ that their e-commerce is down for a month and outlook is it will be down for more time, then something is seriously wrong with the company. Such companies are 100% going to have a much better experience with Shopify. > If one of your core businesses is selling clothes online, and you're a large enough entity, you should write your own software to sell clothes online. If only this was so easy. For various reasons writing non trivial software is hard, and unless these companies can make some structural changes to hire and retain very good engineers (which also is hard for various reasons for these companies), they simply have no chance of doing better than shopify.

dangus 1y ago
The site being down for months is just the effect of this breach, it doesn't mean that the company made the wrong risk assessment by choosing to write their own software in the first place. If I buy a car and I happen to crash it on the first day I drove it home, that doesn't mean I made the wrong choice to buy the car that day. I still bought the car based on the best information I had at the time. M&S basically lost a lottery ticket type of bad luck scenario where they are dealing with a breach that is far, far worse than a typical data breach's impact. Remember when the PlayStation Network was down for over a month due to a very serious breach? That breach didn't prove that PlayStation should have used some kind of external provider for its online services. In fact, an external provider for that sort o thing is not even practical for their business. Remember, there's an alternate timeline where Shopify itself could be breached in a similarly severe way and also go down for 3 months. It's very unlikely but it's possible. If it can happen to M&S it could happen to Shopify.

dangus 1y ago

The site being down for months is just the effect of this breach, it doesn't mean that the company made the wrong risk assessment by choosing to write their own software in the first place. If I buy a car and I happen to crash it on the first day I drove it home, that doesn't mean I made the wrong choice to buy the car that day. I still bought the car based on the best information I had at the time. M&S basically lost a lottery ticket type of bad luck scenario where they are dealing with a breach that is far, far worse than a typical data breach's impact. Remember when the PlayStation Network was down for over a month due to a very serious breach? That breach didn't prove that PlayStation should have used some kind of external provider for its online services. In fact, an external provider for that sort o thing is not even practical for their business. Remember, there's an alternate timeline where Shopify itself could be breached in a similarly severe way and also go down for 3 months. It's very unlikely but it's possible. If it can happen to M&S it could happen to Shopify.