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Google Duo will be replaced by Google Meet in Sept 2025
- silisili 1y agoIs Google, or at least the C suite, not absolutely embarrassed by their behavior? Or is the promotion/churn cycle so high that nobody at all cares anymore?
- izacus 1y agoI don't think they can hear you over record breaking profit and stock price. Capitalism doesn't measure itself in "embarassement" or your opinion, it measures via cold hard cash. And Google has been making boatloads of it year after year after year. Until that changes, a C-suite won't self reflect. They're "winning", aren't they?
- delusional 1y agoI think this is true on a deeper level. What do we measure progress by? The only thing people ever talk about as a measure of progress is the stock market. How much it's up, how much it's down. Nobody cares about the actual output of the economy at this point. It's all just number go up. It's not just the CEO's that can't hear anything over the record breaking profit. It's all of society.
- ghusto 1y agoI'm a little more optimistic, which is boosted by the change in levels of awareness I'm seeing in people around me (not just tech people). As much as I like to shit on gen-z, one great thing they have going for them is awareness and understanding at levels that were unobtainable for my generation, and it's trickling _up_ to the older generation. A good example: My generation always ended discussions of counter-productive change with "Well, that's progress!". Gen-z are asking "progress towards _what_?". People are waking up to the fact that common accepted "wisdom" can be questioned.
- zukzuk 1y agoYou must be brushing up against a very different cohort than I. Sure, there are some very smart and aware gen-zs, just as there have been in every generation. But on average they are as ignorant as anyone else, with maybe a bigger than average bias for apathy.
- gus_tpm 1y agoI know it's just hacker news, but I would like to hope. I am gen-z after all, and I have seen a lot more understanding from my friends lately. Obviously we are not better than anyone else, and everyone is different.
- ghusto 1y ago> Obviously we are not better than anyone else, and everyone is different LoL, this is what I'm talking about, by the way :D Also, it makes us older folks uncomfortable in a perplexed sort of way. I mean, it's good, but ... we don't understand your understanding.
- StopDisinfo910 1y agoThe issue is still the same it was a century ago. Google is more or less a conglomerate. It has no incentive to be performing in any of the business which are not the money printing machine. It just needs to be good enough to kill potential competitors. That’s why competition law enforcement matters.
- dyauspitr 1y agoMaybe it’s a viable strategy though marginally hostile to consumers. Let internal teams battle it out and let the cream float to the top? I mean it’s working because I use dozens of Google products everyday, they’re killing it with LLMs and their stock prices are higher than ever.
- mieses 1y agoI appreciate that they killed Google Reader, etc. It made it easier to move on.
- wltr 1y agoBasically, I stopped trusting them ever since.
- melodyogonna 1y agoI thought Google Meet replaced Google Duo a long time ago? I mean, I remember that making the headlines some time back
- izacus 1y agoBased on what I understand from the article, they're killing off the last remnants of Duo features what were merged into Meet.
- ahartmetz 1y agoOK cool. What was wrong with Hangouts anyway?
- chneu 1y agoAt one point I think Google had 4? chat apps. Hangouts, Voice(at one point merged with hangouts), Duo, and Meet. If you wanna count Google+ I think you could.
- mrtksn 1y agoDoes anybody knows why Google and Microsoft constantly shuffle their communication apps? Both had the opportunity to be the king but instead they seems to choose to throw away their fortunes? I still remember the times when we used Gtalk as much as MSN messenger and both of those simply disappeared slowly when mobile started dominating and those simply sit tight and did nothing. Then there were numerous replacements and alternatives by both of Google and MS but for some reason they all felt neglected and later shut down. Microsoft bought Skype only to make it worse and shut it down. Considered to buy Discord at some point eventually to abandon the bid. Any insights?
- chneu 1y agoStaffing changes. People have to justify their jobs. People get hired to create a product, then get shuffled around then nobody cares so the product dies. Every time there's a leadership shuffle you'll notice products get left behind and eventually retired. This was especially true in the early-ish days of Google. https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- izacus 1y agoI bet you can track those changes internally by looking at which VP/Director "won" an internal political struggle and wrangled the project away from others. As a result a new team takes it over and kills the old one.
- spwa4 1y agoWell what you're really seeing is the result of failed enshittification. Google (and Meta, and ...) built/bought these apps to start an enshittification cycle, and with communication apps it keeps failing, or at least not live up to search or social. So there's a constant fight about how to improve this, a fight which then turns into reorgs and chair dances. Then they fail again, and we do it again. And again. There's actual competition. Competition because, let's be honest, nation states are pushing their own internet apps where they are pushing propaganda (We're winning, Zelensky bad), instead of having "BUY THIS CRAP" every second post. And they often actually put some effort into it ("Zelensky bad, because of complicated historical/economic/... argument that we'll describe in 10 posts, 2 pages each, that you'll probably learn something from" [1][2][3] or "China is a great place to live. Don't mind all the people leaving, even leaving to fight for Putin because that's an actual improvement over China's rural cities' conditions or the many fuckups (how many times have all the fish in the Yantze suddenly died this year? I think we're already at double digits). China is the future!", because, like most governments, both the Russian and Chinese government are full of old, educated people) Not that the propaganda isn't getting worse too. Just look at rt.com's frontpage today vs 10 years ago. And they actually sound a lot less cringy than Musk does. [1] https://www.rt.com/russia/618284-what-russian-generals-are-reading/ https://www.rt.com/russia/618284-what-russian-generals-are-r... [2] https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/618333-joseph-brodsky-nobel-exile/ https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/618333-joseph-brodsky-nobel-e... [3] https://www.rt.com/business/616820-uae-ai-company-expanding-into-us-market/ https://www.rt.com/business/616820-uae-ai-company-expanding-...
- chneu 1y agohttps://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ if ya wanna go down nostalgia lane.
- wiseowise 1y agoDuo is a stupid name for a video/chat app anyway, good riddance.
- tap-snap-or-nap 1y agoAnother one added to the Google Graveyard.
- pona-a 1y agoWhy are they doing it? Google Meet is an organizational conference app, Duo is a one-on-one dialer. If they wanted to have one app for everything, Hangouts would have served that, but they killed it for the organizational Google Chat. Do the people making these decisions do it blindfolded, guided by a two-sentence summary of each product?
- msgodel 1y agoI just pretend anything other than email, jabber, and SMS doesn't exist (outside my work laptop of course) and I feel like I'm a much more relaxed person because of it.
- AnonC 1y agoThis article from August 2021 on Arstechnica, titled “A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps” still seems relevant. [1] Google doesn’t seem to have any control over or change in its internal politics and “promotion led new projects” culture (which later get replaced by the same tricks they employed). If you were to ask someone, even people in Google, which app is Google’s official messaging app, they’d have a tough time figuring it out. It changes by seasons. [1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-of-instability-the-history-of-google-messaging-apps/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-...