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I thought article would be about significant battery capacity loss in freezing weather - ie ( from Google ) ...Another study by Recurrent showed the loss can b

I thought article would be about significant battery capacity loss in freezing weather - ie ( from Google ) ...Another study by Recurrent showed the loss can be up to 30% in cold weather between -7 and -1 degrees. In both studies car model and battery size mattered. So while you don't lose all your range, colder temperatures do affect your EV range...... but no mention of range loss in freezing weather ....

toomuchtodo 1y ago
Here's Why Norway Hasn't Had Trouble With Winter EV Charging - https://insideevs.com/news/705338/norway-winter-ev-charging-no-trouble/ https://insideevs.com/news/705338/norway-winter-ev-charging-... - January 19th, 2024 EVs work fine in the cold in Norway. Here’s how they do it Cold temperatures can affect an EV’s battery. But range issues can be averted if drivers are prepared - https://www.fastcompany.com/91011373/evs-work-fine-in-the-cold-in-norway-heres-how-they-do-it https://www.fastcompany.com/91011373/evs-work-fine-in-the-co... | https://archive.today/9B3ot https://archive.today/9B3ot - January 17th, 2024 Upcoming sodium chemistries perform well down to -30C without the limitations lithium chemistries face. Preheat vehicle before leaving a charger, ensure sufficient EV charger density, etc. https://placetoplug.com/en/charging-stations/norway/map https://placetoplug.com/en/charging-stations/norway/map
magicalhippo 1y ago
Our Renault Megane e-Tech, starting from 80% battery, does about ~350 km during summer, and ~200-250 km during the cold of winter depending on outside temperature and who's in the car. It is quite noticeable, no doubt. But it's been perfectly sufficient for us. We seldom travel that long during winter, and there's plenty of fast chargers around if we do. Typically one or two charging stops is all we need, and we'd have one stop for restrooms and drinks/snacks regardless. When it's not biting cold, it's not something we think about. And our Renault is certainly not the best in the battery department.
Arnt 1y ago
None of my friends who got an EV even mentioned it. "How's the new car?" Not a word about range loss. I guess the journalist didn't hear any either.
thebruce87m 1y ago
Range loss during freezing weather only matters if you need that range during freezing weather. Given that most people are mainly commuting a relatively short distance it’s not really an issue. If you’re charging at home you are topped up every morning anyway. My commute needs 10% battery and I honestly couldn’t tell you the winter impact because it doesn’t matter, just plug in at night and fully charged in the morning. Also if you don’t do long trips in the winter and you can charge at home there are a few benefits: * Remote/Timed defrost/pre-heat. There were probably 10 mornings last winter that I got into a fully defrosted and preheated car while the neighbours were scraping their windows. * No need to visit petrol stations. This is an all-year thing but it is time saved and in the winter you’re not standing in a forecourt in those freezing conditions.
wqaatwt 1y ago
Norway is not that cold, though. Temperatures in areas where most people live are rarely freezing

toomuchtodo 1y ago

Here's Why Norway Hasn't Had Trouble With Winter EV Charging - https://insideevs.com/news/705338/norway-winter-ev-charging-no-trouble/ https://insideevs.com/news/705338/norway-winter-ev-charging-... - January 19th, 2024 EVs work fine in the cold in Norway. Here’s how they do it Cold temperatures can affect an EV’s battery. But range issues can be averted if drivers are prepared - https://www.fastcompany.com/91011373/evs-work-fine-in-the-cold-in-norway-heres-how-they-do-it https://www.fastcompany.com/91011373/evs-work-fine-in-the-co... | https://archive.today/9B3ot https://archive.today/9B3ot - January 17th, 2024 Upcoming sodium chemistries perform well down to -30C without the limitations lithium chemistries face. Preheat vehicle before leaving a charger, ensure sufficient EV charger density, etc. https://placetoplug.com/en/charging-stations/norway/map https://placetoplug.com/en/charging-stations/norway/map

magicalhippo 1y ago

Our Renault Megane e-Tech, starting from 80% battery, does about ~350 km during summer, and ~200-250 km during the cold of winter depending on outside temperature and who's in the car. It is quite noticeable, no doubt. But it's been perfectly sufficient for us. We seldom travel that long during winter, and there's plenty of fast chargers around if we do. Typically one or two charging stops is all we need, and we'd have one stop for restrooms and drinks/snacks regardless. When it's not biting cold, it's not something we think about. And our Renault is certainly not the best in the battery department.

Arnt 1y ago

None of my friends who got an EV even mentioned it. "How's the new car?" Not a word about range loss. I guess the journalist didn't hear any either.

thebruce87m 1y ago

Range loss during freezing weather only matters if you need that range during freezing weather. Given that most people are mainly commuting a relatively short distance it’s not really an issue. If you’re charging at home you are topped up every morning anyway. My commute needs 10% battery and I honestly couldn’t tell you the winter impact because it doesn’t matter, just plug in at night and fully charged in the morning. Also if you don’t do long trips in the winter and you can charge at home there are a few benefits: * Remote/Timed defrost/pre-heat. There were probably 10 mornings last winter that I got into a fully defrosted and preheated car while the neighbours were scraping their windows. * No need to visit petrol stations. This is an all-year thing but it is time saved and in the winter you’re not standing in a forecourt in those freezing conditions.

wqaatwt 1y ago

Norway is not that cold, though. Temperatures in areas where most people live are rarely freezing