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Yup, it turns out all those Indian contractors/outsourced staff don't really give a shit.

by phatfish 1y ago

gosub100 1y ago
They're paid not to. Disagreement rocks the boat, they get fired and have 2 weeks to pack it up and fly home.
nebula8804 1y ago
And yet somehow Twitter plods along.
- wiether 1y ago
  I never understood this Twitter thing. - Everybody in their right mind agreed that, for what they were achieving, Twitter was completely over-staffed. Like most of the big tech co in this period. And like most of those co, they went through a leaning program with mass layoffs. - If the service is running fine with only 10% of the staff, it doesn't necessarily means that the 90% that got fired were useless. I can get a 6yo to heat their food using a microwave. Does it mean that the kid is a genius, or that the people who made the microwave did it in a way that allows a kid to operate it, even though it's a complex system at its core? - Comparing Twitter to an international eCom website is disingenuous. If "design Twitter" is a common system design interview question, it's not because the website is popular, it's because the basics are quite simple. Whereas, behind an eCom website, there's dozens of parts going on at any time, with hundreds of interoperability issues. You're not mainly relying on your main DB for your data, most of it is coming from external systems.
  - cloudsec9 1y ago
    "The basics are simple" ... hrm. I think the concepts of how Twitter works is simple; but during their "fail whale" days, they had to reinvent things on the fly to achieve scale and reliability. Twitter used to have lots of moving parts, and money flowed from various ads and placements, and that was much more complex then I think people appreciate. With their new head twit, they destroyed most of their ad revenue stream and are now hyping paying for APIs and posting privileges, and it shows. My main irritation is that people say it "works fine", when lots of crap is broken all over, and it now has regular outages. They have shipped like ONE feature that was mostly done earlier since the takeover.
- chownie 1y ago
  It turns out if you login-wall the site you can get away with a few catastrophic outages, people won't even remember them.
sunshinerag 1y ago
What does race got to do with it?

Yup, it turns out all those Indian contractors/outsourced staff don't really give a shit.

gosub100 1y ago

They're paid not to. Disagreement rocks the boat, they get fired and have 2 weeks to pack it up and fly home.

nebula8804 1y ago

And yet somehow Twitter plods along.

wiether 1y ago
I never understood this Twitter thing. - Everybody in their right mind agreed that, for what they were achieving, Twitter was completely over-staffed. Like most of the big tech co in this period. And like most of those co, they went through a leaning program with mass layoffs. - If the service is running fine with only 10% of the staff, it doesn't necessarily means that the 90% that got fired were useless. I can get a 6yo to heat their food using a microwave. Does it mean that the kid is a genius, or that the people who made the microwave did it in a way that allows a kid to operate it, even though it's a complex system at its core? - Comparing Twitter to an international eCom website is disingenuous. If "design Twitter" is a common system design interview question, it's not because the website is popular, it's because the basics are quite simple. Whereas, behind an eCom website, there's dozens of parts going on at any time, with hundreds of interoperability issues. You're not mainly relying on your main DB for your data, most of it is coming from external systems.
- cloudsec9 1y ago
  "The basics are simple" ... hrm. I think the concepts of how Twitter works is simple; but during their "fail whale" days, they had to reinvent things on the fly to achieve scale and reliability. Twitter used to have lots of moving parts, and money flowed from various ads and placements, and that was much more complex then I think people appreciate. With their new head twit, they destroyed most of their ad revenue stream and are now hyping paying for APIs and posting privileges, and it shows. My main irritation is that people say it "works fine", when lots of crap is broken all over, and it now has regular outages. They have shipped like ONE feature that was mostly done earlier since the takeover.
chownie 1y ago
It turns out if you login-wall the site you can get away with a few catastrophic outages, people won't even remember them.

sunshinerag 1y ago

What does race got to do with it?