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> For nearly a century, astronomers have known that the universe is expanding, because the galaxies that we can see around us through telescopes are all rushing
by tshaddox 1y ago
> For nearly a century, astronomers have known that the universe is expanding, because the galaxies that we can see around us through telescopes are all rushing away. Riess studied how they moved. He very carefully measured the distance of each one from Earth, and when all the data came together, in 1998, the results surprised him. They were “shocking even,” he told his colleagues in a flustered email that he sent on the eve of his honeymoon. A striking relationship had emerged: The farther away that galaxies were, the faster they were receding. This “immediately suggested a profound conclusion,” he said in his Nobel Prize lecture. Something is causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate.
I'm quite confused by this early paragraph. It seems to be claiming that Hubble's law was discovered in 1998 by Adam Riess, instead of in the 1920s by Edwin Hubble (and others).
- gamesetmath 1y ago[dead]
- tinix 1y agoThe Hubble Tension is not Hubble's constant.
- dataflow 1y agoI think they're talking acceleration, not velocity? Hubble's law says more distant galaxies are receding faster than slower ones at some calculable rate, but it doesn't say the rate at which they're doing that is accelerating over time. (I do find it kind of shocking that one can prove this without observing the same thing over a prolonged period of time.)
- marcellus23 1y agoDisclaimer that I'm not an astronomer and might be totally wrong, but from some quick searching, it seems like the article is conflating Hubble's discovery and Riess's. Hubble's law can be true even if the expansion of the universe is slowing down, not speeding up: a galaxy twice as far away as another can be receding at twice the speed, even if that speed is decreasing over time. But it seems like Riess's discovery is that the speed is actually increasing over time. It's related to Hubble's law but not the same thing. Frankly, the fact that I could find that out with 2 minutes of reading Wikipedia reflects pretty poorly on the author.
- CGMthrowaway 1y agoIt's the second derivative. Riess et al's findings showed that galaxies farther away are not just receding faster (as Hubble's Law already described), but that the rate of expansion itself is increasing over time. This discovery suggested the presence of a mysterious force, now called dark energy, driving this acceleration. This was unexpected because most astronomers at the time thought the expansion should be slowing down due to gravitational attraction between galaxies.
- mr_mitm 1y agoYes, but the article is indeed unclear about this. In particular this line: >The farther away that galaxies were, the faster they were receding. This is already the case in Hubble's law, which says that the velocity is proportional to the distance. Hubble's constant is the proportionality constant and thus the expansion rate. Riess found that the Hubble constant is not constant. Instead, the expansion rate is increasing over time.
- mathattack 1y agoHow many journalism majors did you encounter in undergrad who knew how to apply second derivatives to Physics problems? (I've given up on pop science articles - podcasts with experts interviewing experts has a much higher signal to noise ratio)
- tshaddox 1y agoI wouldn't expect a journalist to apply second derivatives, but I would expect them to talk to physicists and accurately report what the physicists say. Of course, I have no real physics or astronomy education beyond high school, but I can recognize a textbook one-line description of Hubble's law and know that something's off when it's being attributed to a guy in 1998.
- freedomben 1y agoI have quite low expectations of journalists when it comes to anything technical or that requires expertise, but I do generally think highly of the Atlantic and think they are generally a lot better than average at it. I'm a disappointed in this one though.
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