4 ms·

I wonder which other professions or trade ask people to perform infront of them in a simulated env as a filter criteria. Actors for sure with auditions and may

I wonder which other professions or trade ask people to perform infront of them in a simulated env as a filter criteria. Actors for sure with auditions and maybe maybe chefs, male pornstars.

lapcat 1y ago
Only male?
- devnull3 1y ago
  Males are under pressure to "sustain" it for 10-15 min atleast (with many people watching). For females, no such thing.
  - throwanem 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - williamdclt 1y ago
      They didn't say anything about acting? They said men have to "sustain" - ie hold an erection without ejaculating.
      - throwanem 1y ago
        Right. Acting. It isn't more difficult for men because their part is, uh, hydraulically obvious. More to the point, it isn't less hard work for women. I get why guys assume it would be, though. Good grief, I bet you probably think you've never seen anyone fake an orgasm outside a porno, too...
        mathgradthrow 1y ago
        gender roles, and dare I say even sex roles, are actually noticeably different in sex.
        throwanem 1y ago
        Did I say that they were not?
        mathgradthrow 1y ago
        the entire premise of your objection is "what about women in porn?" OC listed three jobs total, the premise being that jobs in which a tryout is a useful evaluation tool are rare. There is no a priori reason to believe that the very different jobs that men and women have as porn actors should both fall into this rare category. Unless, of course, you're reflexively looking to take offense at the idea that men and women are not interchangeable.
        throwanem 1y ago
        Someone has reflexively taken offense at something here. It's clear who and I think I see what, but I have to confess myself still mystified as to why. All I've said is that women also act and that's also hard work. I didn't say it is the same job, only that it is no easier. Why does that bother you so?
        mathgradthrow 1y ago
        Because no one was talking about the difficulty of the task except for you, and you chose to get indignant.
        throwanem 1y ago
        I didn't raise the subject: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44137282 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44137282 Young men are adorable, but really I feel for you. What you really desperately need is a role model, the same way I did at your age. None is to be found here.
bespokedevelopr 1y ago
Welders, millwrights, machinists, carpenters, lots of trades have qualifying interviews. I’ve taken written exams in interviews for machining and welding as well as hands on show me parts. Not that I agree with absurd interview process of software development but they often see themselves more akin to attorneys than tradesmen. The difference being attorneys have to pass a bar exam and even trades have journeyman cards to provide credibility. Software development has none of that. Real engineering has PE licenses but how do you achieve that in such a broadly scoped field of software development? We either play the interview game or find a way around it.
- throwanem 1y ago
  This trade has never helped itself by insisting on being taken for a profession. A lot of these kids have never known the joys of time and a half - or the incentive that gives management to try to have all their s—t in one sock, every once in a while, for a change.
- devnull3 1y ago
  I may have a outdated notion about the trades you mentioned, but I have seen an "apprentice" model a lot. I have seen it with a masonry where the experienced guy was bringing in his nephew and teaching him on the job. A lot of these trades are family owned and have seen taking in people based on someone vouching for the new guy. Maybe this varies country to country. I have seen this in India and UK atleast. In UK atleast there are trades like roofing, landscaping, exterior building cleaning, masonry, tree surgeon etc which I have seen them are mostly family based.
williamdclt 1y ago
All sorts of managers and analysts have "project stages" where they have to analyze data and present a case study.
jghn 1y ago
> maybe maybe chefs staging [1] is very much a thing for kitchen staff [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staging_(cooking) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staging_(cooking)

I wonder which other professions or trade ask people to perform infront of them in a simulated env as a filter criteria. Actors for sure with auditions and maybe maybe chefs, male pornstars.

lapcat 1y ago

Only male?

devnull3 1y ago
Males are under pressure to "sustain" it for 10-15 min atleast (with many people watching). For females, no such thing.
- throwanem 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - williamdclt 1y ago
    They didn't say anything about acting? They said men have to "sustain" - ie hold an erection without ejaculating.
    - throwanem 1y ago
      Right. Acting. It isn't more difficult for men because their part is, uh, hydraulically obvious. More to the point, it isn't less hard work for women. I get why guys assume it would be, though. Good grief, I bet you probably think you've never seen anyone fake an orgasm outside a porno, too...
      - mathgradthrow 1y ago
        gender roles, and dare I say even sex roles, are actually noticeably different in sex.
        throwanem 1y ago
        Did I say that they were not?
        mathgradthrow 1y ago
        the entire premise of your objection is "what about women in porn?" OC listed three jobs total, the premise being that jobs in which a tryout is a useful evaluation tool are rare. There is no a priori reason to believe that the very different jobs that men and women have as porn actors should both fall into this rare category. Unless, of course, you're reflexively looking to take offense at the idea that men and women are not interchangeable.
        throwanem 1y ago
        Someone has reflexively taken offense at something here. It's clear who and I think I see what, but I have to confess myself still mystified as to why. All I've said is that women also act and that's also hard work. I didn't say it is the same job, only that it is no easier. Why does that bother you so?
        mathgradthrow 1y ago
        Because no one was talking about the difficulty of the task except for you, and you chose to get indignant.
        throwanem 1y ago
        I didn't raise the subject: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44137282 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44137282 Young men are adorable, but really I feel for you. What you really desperately need is a role model, the same way I did at your age. None is to be found here.

bespokedevelopr 1y ago

Welders, millwrights, machinists, carpenters, lots of trades have qualifying interviews. I’ve taken written exams in interviews for machining and welding as well as hands on show me parts. Not that I agree with absurd interview process of software development but they often see themselves more akin to attorneys than tradesmen. The difference being attorneys have to pass a bar exam and even trades have journeyman cards to provide credibility. Software development has none of that. Real engineering has PE licenses but how do you achieve that in such a broadly scoped field of software development? We either play the interview game or find a way around it.

throwanem 1y ago
This trade has never helped itself by insisting on being taken for a profession. A lot of these kids have never known the joys of time and a half - or the incentive that gives management to try to have all their s—t in one sock, every once in a while, for a change.
devnull3 1y ago
I may have a outdated notion about the trades you mentioned, but I have seen an "apprentice" model a lot. I have seen it with a masonry where the experienced guy was bringing in his nephew and teaching him on the job. A lot of these trades are family owned and have seen taking in people based on someone vouching for the new guy. Maybe this varies country to country. I have seen this in India and UK atleast. In UK atleast there are trades like roofing, landscaping, exterior building cleaning, masonry, tree surgeon etc which I have seen them are mostly family based.

williamdclt 1y ago

All sorts of managers and analysts have "project stages" where they have to analyze data and present a case study.

jghn 1y ago

> maybe maybe chefs staging [1] is very much a thing for kitchen staff [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staging_(cooking) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staging_(cooking)