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Previous discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125183 (flagged) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?

• thrance 1y ago
  [flagged]
  • csomar 1y ago
    Some flagging transparency has to be implemented a la lobste.rs and also mod boosting or demotion. This really hurts HN reputation when it comes to neutrality.
    • nathanaldensr 1y ago
      Neutrality has nothing to do with it. HN should not be for political discourse; therefore, neutrality is orthogonal to the site's character. Many of us agree, hence the flags.
      • yencabulator 1y ago
        I thought we were discussing the unreliability and improper application of LLMs.
        • AlecSchueler 1y ago
          The unreliable LLM was used by a member of the US government. It could make them look bad if it's discussed here.
      • poly2it 1y ago
        Isn't so much of what we're doing in tech inherently political?
  • Scarblac 1y ago
    It's very easy to accidentally click flag instead of the title (on mobile anyway), I hope it doesn't immediately do something serious.
    • thrance 1y ago
      You can always unflag them if you go to your profile and see the list of flagged submissions. But anyway, these type of links get flagged uniquely often, I think it has nothing to do with bad UI. And in my experience, it didn't use to be this way.
      • AlecSchueler 1y ago
        You don't even need to go to your profile, flagging something doesn't hide it. But you're right that this is clearly politically motivated and the pattern is too strong to put the blame on the HN UI, but at least it was good for a chortle.
  • pjc50 1y ago
    Lot of people flag anything political, and there's still a lot of Trump supporters with the flag power reading HN.
    • nathanaldensr 1y ago
      [flagged]
      • thrance 1y ago
        Everything is political, get over it. If we can't talk about a very damaging misuse of LLMs because it was done by the administration, then what even is allowed on this site anymore? Is it leftist to state basic facts about the government's use of technology?
        • ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
          Reality has a well-known liberal bias - Stephen Colbert
        • AlecSchueler 1y ago
          Yeah especially with LLMs. It's easy to say "it will get discussed everywhere" but everywhere else has very basic misunderstandings of the technology, so I appreciate being able to discuss it with relatively trusted peers. But unfortunately the Venn diagram of LLM-related news and politics resembles a circle more and more every day. I also find it laughable that it's always "no politics of any kind" when we have regular posts about the famine in Ireland, cycling infrastructure in the Netherlands, digital identification in Estonia etc etc. -- what is meant by "any kind" is "related to the current regime in the US."
  • dcminter 1y ago
    Probably because this is an obviously hot political topic, not new, and something that will indeed be sufficiently mainstream to be (heavily) covered in the usual news channels. Whereas the guidelines explicitly state: > "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics [...] unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. [...] If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic." This story will just attract the usual partisan posturing and is very unlikely to bring any really interesting high value conversations. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    • luke-stanley 1y ago
      The Guardian article is a new analysis about unchecked AI technology use by a government health official claiming to support science. Surely that’s HN-worthy, not off-topic? Is it fair to assume any element of politics involvement will be low-value or against the guidelines?
      • dcminter 1y ago
        Do you see a lot of high value political discussion? I see a lot of political posturing. I despise what's going on at the moment, it's not normal, and it's not OK. But discussing it here is utterly pointless and detracts from the stuff that is worth discussing here.
        • luke-stanley 1y ago
          High value comments / posts are good to look for, though high value political discussion is almost an oxymoron. The post about it here was the first I heard of it, which is valuable to me. Zombot's comment (44133962) quotes TFA: "He outlined plans for creating government-run journals instead." this is important context to highlight, especially given the already demonstrated flaws that makes me want to read the article. The quote is instantly insightful and the commentary "There once was a time when we fought an entire Cold War to stop ideas like that." is a fair point. I come for the gems among the rough, and I'm really glad HN exists, even though it could use Slashdot style comment categories or a personal spam and ranking system! Maybe I should make a UserScript for spam and ranking. I don't agree that it's pointless.