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RFK Jr's 'Maha' report found to contain citations to nonexistent studies
- justacrow 1y agoWhat's obviously needed is for OpenAI to invest 4B in a CaaS (Citations-as-a-Service) startup that autogenerates the studies their AI makes up.
- HlessClaudesman 1y agoAt a certain point all public communication will just be AIs making content for other AIs, and we can humans can assend to just talking to eachother again.
- fmbb 1y agohttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/06/zoom-ceo-envisions-ai-deepfakes-attending-meetings-in-your-place/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/06/zoom-...
- latexr 1y agohttps://tapas.io/episode/3117097 https://tapas.io/episode/3117097
- TudorAndrei 1y agoWhenever I think about AI in comms. I always go back to this video (NSFW - language) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHc54Z_b3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHc54Z_b3w
- aspenmayer 1y ago"I already am eating from the trashcan all the time. The name of the trashcan is ideology." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rr4mQiwxpA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rr4mQiwxpA
- ChrisMarshallNY 1y agoThey could call it “MyFacts” (Doonesbury reference).
- latexr 1y agohttps://www.washingtonpost.com/doonesbury/strip/archive/2012/03/11 https://www.washingtonpost.com/doonesbury/strip/archive/2012...
- hellotheretoday 1y agoA lot of times when I ask chatgpt for references on something it sends me dead links or links to something that do not have anything to do with what it claims to be citing. I point that out and then it sends me more of the same. I would not be surprised if they were already working on this to improve that aspect to convince people who actually bother to check sources. I also wonder how many people don’t bother to check and are convinced of its potentially flawed perspectives simply because it delivers some citations that are completely irrelevant It reminds me of a time I met some kook who was arguing the merits of this dumb bullshit they bought off instagram. It was $800 and claimed to cure anxiety with magnetic power. They sent a word document provided by the company and it was just a bunch of random studies about transcranial direct current stimulation, which is a real thing with some evidence, but was completely unrelated and is based on electrical currents and not magnetic woo woo bullshit.
- pjc50 1y agoThe current situation is "The Triumph of the Woo" (Riefenstahl passim). There's a lot of such people, they vote, and their money has ended up in an industry which makes donations to ensure that it can continue to scam people.
- sshine 1y agoThat's very backwards. When I ask Kagi's Assistant for references, it provides the search queries that it crawled before answering. That behavior is independent of what LLM is being used, but the reference output format may vary depending on the LLM.
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- dudefeliciano 1y agoContributing to the collapse of society as we know it seems to be a long term side effect
- lostlogin 1y agoBrilliance and foresight? I reaLly hope so.
- nssnsjsjsjs 1y agoMaha is an Arabic name too.
- AStonesThrow 1y agoمها https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maha_(name) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maha_(name) How cute, the script even looks like a little flower on its side, with a bent stem? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maha_bint_Mishari_Al_Saud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maha_bint_Mishari_Al_Saud महा (mahā) 'great' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharaja https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharaja Etc.
- max_ 1y agoI think LLMs are a net negative. I am part of Value Investors Club. And Stock analysis submissions have been halted as too many people were simply submitting AI generated slop [0] [0]: valueinvestorsclub.com/ideas
- pjc50 1y agoLLMs will basically destroy every open submission forum. It's very sad.
- comrade1234 1y agoWhat's the word for 'dupe' but in this case three or four times?
- JSR_FDED 1y agoMahadoop
- andy_ppp 1y agoHow on Earth did the system being vandalised and dismantled by these morons ever come into being in the first place? It must have been a monumental effort by everyone in society to agree on norms that protect us from a completely unscientific attitude to processing information, be it conspiracy theories or healthcare or huge bot farms producing propaganda to divide us. How can we go back to a more stable society once the truth has been systematically eroded? For example the white house press secretary said there would be no increase in the deficit yesterday, which is a complete lie. People now search for facts that prove their suspicions correct, not search out ideas that could change their default viewpoint. I really think a society without any truth is one doomed to failure.
- sofixa 1y ago> How on Earth did the system being vandalised and dismantled by these morons ever come into being in the first place? The saddest part, IMO, is that 20-50% of the population see nothing wrong with all of this. Things will have to get a whole lot worse before there's a chance for them to get better.
- lostlogin 1y ago> The saddest part, IMO, is that 20-50% of the population see nothing wrong with all of this. Give it a bit of time and we won’t be able to know this. Surveys are a bit too scientific. Process and standards are woke, leftist nonsense.
- burnt-resistor 1y agoWe need new leadership now because what's at risk is hundreds of millions of lives. The billionaires have their prepper bunkers and would be fine with the breakdown of civilization. It's the idiots, the corruption, and centralization of power that are meta existential risks that must be removed to ensure the survival of the species. And then address climate change, etc.
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- alwahi 1y agoprobably generated by chatgpt too
- r721 1y agoPrevious discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125183 (flagged) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44132873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44132873
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- csomar 1y agoSome flagging transparency has to be implemented a la lobste.rs and also mod boosting or demotion. This really hurts HN reputation when it comes to neutrality.
- nathanaldensr 1y agoNeutrality has nothing to do with it. HN should not be for political discourse; therefore, neutrality is orthogonal to the site's character. Many of us agree, hence the flags.
- yencabulator 1y agoI thought we were discussing the unreliability and improper application of LLMs.
- AlecSchueler 1y agoThe unreliable LLM was used by a member of the US government. It could make them look bad if it's discussed here.
- poly2it 1y agoIsn't so much of what we're doing in tech inherently political?
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- mrtksn 1y agoSo the spirit is right but the substance is BS? That's the architecture of everything populist. That's how you take on the elites, there's no case where the general population knows it better than the elites. It's a case of which elites went greedy or simply screwed up and people are unhappy with the current state of affairs. After all, is it not true that the people should take batter care of their health? I've seen people blaming it on AI but IMHO that's not the culprit. Populists always had the "best" grasp of the problems and the simplest solutions that will "solve everything" since ever. Now they can have those AI generated but before AI they had anecdotal evidence, obscure work of someone that no one else can reproduce or some historical fact that everybody knows but its complete fabrication or misrepresentation.
- j_w 1y agoHow can the spirit be correct if the evidence backing the claims are non-existent? We are talking about a guy who says American's are losing their faith in the establishment and science, yet does so using a paper with fabricated references. This is at best hypocrisy and negligence and at worst just more lies from the administration.
- mrtksn 1y agoThe the evidence on causes is wrong or non-existent. That doesn’t mean that there’s no evidence that Americans should get healthier because there’s plenty of evidence on that, like shorter lifespans or prevalence of health issues that are much less of a problem in other countries. In other words You should get healthier even if chemtrails don’t cause it.
- j_w 1y agoThe issue is that if you have a claim like "American's should get healthier" I would presume that you would have evidence that they are unhealthy in the first place (Note: I am not disputing this). If the evidence you supply for your claim is fabricated, then either your claim is bullshit or you are the wrong person for the job. RFK Jr. just often hits the first target and is always hitting the second.
- mkfs 1y agoI haven't been keeping track. Does HN still think humans are supposed to be in ketosis 24/7, and that fruits are dangerous because > muh sugar and that it's important to stress that the "sugar lobby" has completely distorted the scientific record (without any mention of Beef checkoff or the dairy lobby)?
- zombot 1y ago> He outlined plans for creating government-run journals instead. There once was a time when we fought an entire Cold War to stop ideas like that.
- sillyfluke 1y agoDid we though? The triangle design for the stealth plane (I'm not arguing the merits of the design or the plane) to come out Skunkworks came from a radar paper from a Soviet journal -- at least according to book on the topic. As I recall from the book, the Soviet author of the paper, who emigrated to the States in the 90s (?), said he wasn't too surprised that it was the States and not the Soviets who took his paper seriously. And here we are revoking visas of international students. This tells me that in a couple iterations down the road the MAGA admin is not going to take its own government journals seriously either.
- philistine 1y agoYou cannot actually believe that a triangle shape for a stealth plane is a novel idea that warrants reducing the work of the cold war era US? What other shape would it have had? Square?
- sillyfluke 1y agoI'll quote the story, since you don't want to google it: >> While Overholser himself described Ufimtsev’s work as, “so obtuse and impenetrable that only a nerd’s nerd would have waded through it,” he quickly recognized that a creative interpretation of the book could offer a means by which one could calculate how electromagnetic energy would reflect off of a two-dimensional shape. Overholser then reasoned that if they could break down the design of an aircraft into a collection of two-dimensional triangles, it could be possible to calculate an aircraft’s complete radar return without having to actually build it and stick it in front of a radar array for testing like Boeing’s Quiet Bird. << It was a book, not a journal paper apparently.
- IAmBroom 1y agoBy "we" do you mean the TLAs? Cuz all I did was hide under my desk when I saw bright flashes of light.
- ChrisArchitect 1y ago[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44132873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44132873