> If you lose the ability to be a normal person whenever That depends on what "normal" is, and I don't think you or I get to define it. I mostly hang out in m

> If you lose the ability to be a normal person whenever That depends on what "normal" is, and I don't think you or I get to define it. I mostly hang out in mixed-gender groups, but I absolutely have seen the difference in vibe others in this thread have noted, when I'm hanging out with a group of just other men. Especially when compared to a mixed group that has both single men and single women. > men are putting these strange rules and requirements on their own selves I wouldn't call it a "rule" so much as a "phenomenon". It just seems to kinda happen. Not always, and not in every mixed-gender group, but it does happen. I don't think anyone is making up or following any kind of "rules", and I can't control group dynamics or behavior on my own. > I don't think that's a society issue. I think that's a you issue. I think this discussion would be more productive without thinly-veiled ad hominem attacks.