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> In contrast, when is the last time one of the greatest cathedrals were built? Probably not for hundreds of years. Our Lady of Good Health[1] in India is 1962

> In contrast, when is the last time one of the greatest cathedrals were built? Probably not for hundreds of years. Our Lady of Good Health[1] in India is 1962. I think what the author means is "one of the famous ones in Europe", but the Sagrada Familia is still being built[0], tho arguably construction started two centuries ago :) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Good_Health https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Good_H...

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AStonesThrow 1y ago
I don't know what threshold to aim for here -- by the way, neither of those two minor basilicas are cathedrals -- but let's navigate a few Wikipedia categories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:20th-century_Roman_Catholic_church_buildings_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:20th-century_Roman_Ca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_the_National_Shrine_of_the_Immaculate_Conception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_the_National_Shrin... (consecrated 1920; dedicated 1959; minor basilica 1990) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_of_the_Angels https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_of_the_A... (1998-2002) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Cathedral_of_the_Russian_Armed_Forces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Cathedral_of_the_Russian_... (2018-2020) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Resurrection_Cathedral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Resurrection_Cathedral (Japanese Orthodox; consecrated 1929) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Cathedral,_Tokyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Cathedral,_Tokyo (1964) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Theresa%27s_Cathedral,_Changchun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Theresa%27s_Cathedral,_Cha... (2008) As for Italy? Get a load of this "crown jewel": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_Church (2003)
- microtherion 1y ago
  A church is a cathedral if it's a bishop's seat, which GP's churches are not. But it seems silly to characterize the Sagrada Familia as "minor".
  - AStonesThrow 1y ago
    The "silly familia's basilica" is in good company: there are 1,881 minor basilicas. That is relative to the 4 major ones, which are all in Rome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilicas_in_the_Catholic_Church# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilicas_in_the_Catholic_Chur... St. Paul Outside-the-Walls was completed in 1840! Almost yesterday! However, re-consecration and construction continued after that. Interestingly, it seems that an automatic fire-detection and suppression system had been installed in the 19th century.
  - tgaj 1y ago
    It's the official church title - "minor basilica". There are only four "major basilicas" in Rome.
- refactor_master 1y ago
  I looked up the Jubilee Church. Supposedly it has a roof that breaks down NOx. So I asked ChatGPT to do some napkin math and… Assuming ~1,200 m² of TiO₂-coated surface removing ~16 g NOₓ/m²/year → 1,200 × 16 = 19,200 g = 19.2 kg/year; with an average car emitting ~5 kg NOₓ/year (based on 15,000 km/year at ~0.33 g/km), the roof offsets ~3.8 cars annually.
rjsw 1y ago
Two in Europe that I can think of [0] [1]: [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Cathedral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Cathedral [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Metropolitan_Cathedral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Metropolitan_Cathedr...
kinow 1y ago
The Cathedral Basilica of the National Shrine of Our Lady Aparecida (Catedral Basílica do Santuário Nacional de Nossa Senhora Aparecia) was also built less than 100 years ago in Brazil. I am not sure when it was first built, I think it was in the 50s, but they had a major renovation/expansion that I think finished ~40 years ago or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Aparecida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Aparec...
allturtles 1y ago
No offense to the people of Velankanni, but Our Lady of Good Health is rather rinky-dink compared to the great historical cathedrals. Looks like the nave is about 20 feet tall and the bell towers 40 feet maybe? Notre Dame it isn't. Per your Wikipedia link, it was designated a Basilica in 1962 but seems to have been mostly constructed before that.
Projectiboga 1y ago
In NYC, there is The Cathedral of St John The Devine. It was started on 1892, opened on 1909 and is still under construction, while open and in use. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._John_the_Divine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._John_the_Di...

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AStonesThrow 1y ago

I don't know what threshold to aim for here -- by the way, neither of those two minor basilicas are cathedrals -- but let's navigate a few Wikipedia categories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:20th-century_Roman_Catholic_church_buildings_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:20th-century_Roman_Ca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_the_National_Shrine_of_the_Immaculate_Conception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_the_National_Shrin... (consecrated 1920; dedicated 1959; minor basilica 1990) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_of_the_Angels https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_of_the_A... (1998-2002) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Cathedral_of_the_Russian_Armed_Forces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Cathedral_of_the_Russian_... (2018-2020) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Resurrection_Cathedral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Resurrection_Cathedral (Japanese Orthodox; consecrated 1929) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Cathedral,_Tokyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Cathedral,_Tokyo (1964) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Theresa%27s_Cathedral,_Changchun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Theresa%27s_Cathedral,_Cha... (2008) As for Italy? Get a load of this "crown jewel": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_Church (2003)

microtherion 1y ago
A church is a cathedral if it's a bishop's seat, which GP's churches are not. But it seems silly to characterize the Sagrada Familia as "minor".
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  The "silly familia's basilica" is in good company: there are 1,881 minor basilicas. That is relative to the 4 major ones, which are all in Rome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilicas_in_the_Catholic_Church# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilicas_in_the_Catholic_Chur... St. Paul Outside-the-Walls was completed in 1840! Almost yesterday! However, re-consecration and construction continued after that. Interestingly, it seems that an automatic fire-detection and suppression system had been installed in the 19th century.
- tgaj 1y ago
  It's the official church title - "minor basilica". There are only four "major basilicas" in Rome.
refactor_master 1y ago
I looked up the Jubilee Church. Supposedly it has a roof that breaks down NOx. So I asked ChatGPT to do some napkin math and… Assuming ~1,200 m² of TiO₂-coated surface removing ~16 g NOₓ/m²/year → 1,200 × 16 = 19,200 g = 19.2 kg/year; with an average car emitting ~5 kg NOₓ/year (based on 15,000 km/year at ~0.33 g/km), the roof offsets ~3.8 cars annually.

rjsw 1y ago

Two in Europe that I can think of [0] [1]: [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Cathedral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Cathedral [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Metropolitan_Cathedral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Metropolitan_Cathedr...

kinow 1y ago

The Cathedral Basilica of the National Shrine of Our Lady Aparecida (Catedral Basílica do Santuário Nacional de Nossa Senhora Aparecia) was also built less than 100 years ago in Brazil. I am not sure when it was first built, I think it was in the 50s, but they had a major renovation/expansion that I think finished ~40 years ago or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Aparecida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Aparec...

allturtles 1y ago

No offense to the people of Velankanni, but Our Lady of Good Health is rather rinky-dink compared to the great historical cathedrals. Looks like the nave is about 20 feet tall and the bell towers 40 feet maybe? Notre Dame it isn't. Per your Wikipedia link, it was designated a Basilica in 1962 but seems to have been mostly constructed before that.

Projectiboga 1y ago

In NYC, there is The Cathedral of St John The Devine. It was started on 1892, opened on 1909 and is still under construction, while open and in use. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._John_the_Divine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._John_the_Di...