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Introducing women to a group of men completely changes the dynamics, and vice versa. Genders have fundamental differences, and it's human nature to act differen
by cedws 1y ago
Introducing women to a group of men completely changes the dynamics, and vice versa. Genders have fundamental differences, and it's human nature to act differently in the presence of the other.
Consider also that men may not be willing to be themselves or be open in the presence of women. Are they not allowed to have a space for this?
A mixed gender social club inevitably gets raided by a load of dudebros who want to get laid. Keeping it men only prevents this and keeps it genuine. There's no reason women can't have something like this for themselves too you know.
- rchaud 1y agoI don't think the OP comment was about women, I read it discriminatory in terms of social class and "culture fit".
- somishere 1y agoI think the comments and down votes are fairly self evident here, despite what I may or may not have meant. Discrimination is a fairly well defined term. Another hot take - the healthiest communities are those that people self-identity into. Like HN ;)
- bluefirebrand 1y ago> There's no reason women can't have something like this for themselves too you know. Women do have things like this. There are tons of female exclusive events and spaces in society still Men aren't allowed to have male-only gyms but women do That's only one example
- solraph 1y ago> Men aren't allowed to have male-only gyms but women do Is that legally true? AFAICT, nobodies opening male-only gyms because there's no demand for them.
- tstrimple 1y agoYou can have a private club with gym equipment that is exclusively for men. But when you're a business open to the public you cannot discriminate based on certain characteristics. Bob's Burgers can't sell just to men. But Bob's Boys Club that happens to have a kitchen which sells burgers to its "private" membership can absolutely keep women out.
- bluefirebrand 1y ago> You can have a private club with gym equipment that is exclusively for men. But when you're a business open to the public you cannot discriminate based on certain characteristics. You can if those certain characteristics are currently in favor. Plenty of women only gyms exist
- slater 1y agoBonafide clubs can discriminate against anything, including protected classes. Might not be a good look, PR-wise, but it's been confirmed in court cases.
- mrweasel 1y agoMaybe it depends on where you live, but no probably not illegal, just incredibly frown upon. I am member of a mens only sports club. We do have a few women, who we sort of had to allow as members, because they had no where else to go and we felt bad about that, but that only for one special program. If you mention that the club is men only, some women becomes really aggressive and instantly want to become a member or have our public subsidy removed. The only fucking way to calm them down is to point out that there is a women only club right next door. Men doesn't try to invade spaces created for women by women, but women sure as hell cannot leave a mens only space alone. It triggers something in small group of women and they become obsessed trying to force their way in or have the thing shutdown.
- te_chris 1y agoLondon has a rich and varied culture of private clubs, some more social than others. Never seen the dudebros wanting to get laid thing. Maybe it’s an American thing?