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If I don't breathe, the environment will "grade" me with death. Now, let's expand our view just a wee bit and move up seven levels in Maslow's hierarchy. Do y

If I don't breathe, the environment will "grade" me with death. Now, let's expand our view just a wee bit and move up seven levels in Maslow's hierarchy. Do you really think fully actualized people are paying all that much attention to things like markets? Great poets and writers have labored in obscurity, died unknown, only to be discovered a hundred years later. Now consider the unknown numbers of people just as good, still unknown. Did they waste their lives because "the market" told them they were worthless? Galileo was told, rather directly, that "the market" did not value his work, to the point of death threats. Did that in any way devalue his knowledge or understanding?

wtvanhest 14y ago
To be honest, I was never a big fan of the concept of fully actualized people. I always felt like it was perpetrated by those that teach since it fits their lifestyle. Since that is the only part of the pyramid that is interesting to most people, I view the entire pyramid as unnecessary to teach at all. I have no clue what Galileo was truly after, but I would guess it was scientific discovery and the fame and wealth that could possibly come along with it. After all, if he truly didn’t care about fame and wealth and he was only after full actualization he could have just written a bunch of books but never told anyone or published them. Why do great poets and writers labor in obscurity, then be discovered hundreds of years later? I would guess one of two things happen in those cases. 1) they lack people skill necessary to get their work out, 2) their art was not appreciated at the time and is for some reason now appreciated. Since they didn’t benefit from their work, I view them and their ideas as having zero worth after considering that value that is created far in to the future is not worth as much as value created today.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  > Why do great poets and writers labor in obscurity, then be discovered hundreds of years later? There are many scenes in the arts that are far under the radar of both the mainstream and the arts establishments but nonetheless are very real and vibrant. Much of art is an act of discovering the depth of your own perceptions, which is rewarding in itself. Institutions, the conception of the arts in textbooks -- these are all by-products of lives lived. They are the mementos and communications of moments. Real art is in the listener, the viewer, or the creator.

wtvanhest 14y ago

To be honest, I was never a big fan of the concept of fully actualized people. I always felt like it was perpetrated by those that teach since it fits their lifestyle. Since that is the only part of the pyramid that is interesting to most people, I view the entire pyramid as unnecessary to teach at all. I have no clue what Galileo was truly after, but I would guess it was scientific discovery and the fame and wealth that could possibly come along with it. After all, if he truly didn’t care about fame and wealth and he was only after full actualization he could have just written a bunch of books but never told anyone or published them. Why do great poets and writers labor in obscurity, then be discovered hundreds of years later? I would guess one of two things happen in those cases. 1) they lack people skill necessary to get their work out, 2) their art was not appreciated at the time and is for some reason now appreciated. Since they didn’t benefit from their work, I view them and their ideas as having zero worth after considering that value that is created far in to the future is not worth as much as value created today.

stcredzero 14y ago
> Why do great poets and writers labor in obscurity, then be discovered hundreds of years later? There are many scenes in the arts that are far under the radar of both the mainstream and the arts establishments but nonetheless are very real and vibrant. Much of art is an act of discovering the depth of your own perceptions, which is rewarding in itself. Institutions, the conception of the arts in textbooks -- these are all by-products of lives lived. They are the mementos and communications of moments. Real art is in the listener, the viewer, or the creator.