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The link to your earlier post shows a HW3 car. If you keep watching the video it shows a second HW4 car stopping before the painted wall. This is literally the

The link to your earlier post shows a HW3 car. If you keep watching the video it shows a second HW4 car stopping before the painted wall. This is literally the definition of progress. Tesla is currently developing HW5 which has 10x the inference capability of HW3. More progress.

ModernMech 1y ago
You call this progress? https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers-off-road-flips-car-scary-crash-driver-couldnt-prevent/ https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers... My chin split open, and I had to get 7 stitches. After the impact, I was hanging upside down watching blood drip down to the glass sun roof, not knowing where I was bleeding from. I unbuckled my seatbelt and sat on the fabric interior in the middle of the two front seats, and saw that my phone’s crash detection went off and told me the first responders were on their way. My whole body was in shock from the incident. Wally said he was on Tesla FSD v13.2.8 on Hardware 4, Tesla’s latest FSD technology. He requested that Tesla send him the data from his car to better understand what happened. This is not progress, these cars should not be on the road, they are a menace to society. I would never put my life or my family's lives in the hands of Tesla hardware and software. But let me guess, it'll be fixed in HW5, sure. We all just have to be the beta testers.
- enslavedrobot 1y ago
  Lol. Don't bother defending your initial blatant lie, just move on to another one. The crash report shows that, prior to the car veering off the road, 2NM of torque was applied to the steering wheel disengaging FSD and that the turning force was applied until the car crashed. The brake was never pressed. This person is just too embarrassed to admit they fell asleep at the wheel and the weight of their hand disengaged FSD. This could easily be cleared up if he showed the driver facing camera the car records in a crash.... But something tells me he won't do that. You don't fact check things very well. That's two blatant falsehoods you've swallowed. What else are you wrong about.
  - Spooky23 1y ago
    Well if you applied Tesla’s rationalization for their failures, if the driver fell asleep before the crash, it clearly wasn’t his fault as he wasn’t in control.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    How is what I said a lie?? My initial post said: "they can't be programmed to not do things, like not run though a picture of a road like Wile E Coyote." Then someone said: "That video was not FSD, but an old version of “driver assist”." Then I linked a video showing that in fact FSD was driving through the wall. Obviously if you have to upgrade the hardware to not run through the wall, then they can't program their current cars to not do so. Because, as I've said since the beginning: their sensors stack is insufficient. And that's the standard line with Tesla fans is constantly shifting the goal posts. It was supposed to be the case that in 2016, all Teslas sold would be equipped with hardware capable of self driving, because Elon told us that cameras were enough. And yet, they have required hardware refresh after hardware refresh after hardware refresh (now on V5) because he's been wrong time and time again. Because cameras aren't enough. And what is this progress you speak of? Just special casing edge cases while leaving fundamentally flawed hardware and software on the road. Now it's 2025 and maybe finally HW5 will bring it? I guess we'll have to see because nothing Elon says can be trusted as fact. > This person is just too embarrassed to admit they fell asleep at the wheel and the weight of their hand disengaged FSD Ah yes, a driverless system that actually doesn't prevent you from crashing because you fell asleep. I don't know why you feel this alternative take makes Tesla's product look any better. Such progress. Much driverless. It's like a sailboat that sinks instead of floating.
    - enslavedrobot 1y ago
      Facts: FSD will not randomly drive off the road and your post showed a human turning the steering wheel by accident. Progress: HW4>HW3 and HW4 cars can see painted walls HW5 exists and will be deployed soon. Goalposts shifted by you = 2
      - ModernMech 1y ago
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ModernMech 1y ago

You call this progress? https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers-off-road-flips-car-scary-crash-driver-couldnt-prevent/ https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers... My chin split open, and I had to get 7 stitches. After the impact, I was hanging upside down watching blood drip down to the glass sun roof, not knowing where I was bleeding from. I unbuckled my seatbelt and sat on the fabric interior in the middle of the two front seats, and saw that my phone’s crash detection went off and told me the first responders were on their way. My whole body was in shock from the incident. Wally said he was on Tesla FSD v13.2.8 on Hardware 4, Tesla’s latest FSD technology. He requested that Tesla send him the data from his car to better understand what happened. This is not progress, these cars should not be on the road, they are a menace to society. I would never put my life or my family's lives in the hands of Tesla hardware and software. But let me guess, it'll be fixed in HW5, sure. We all just have to be the beta testers.

enslavedrobot 1y ago
Lol. Don't bother defending your initial blatant lie, just move on to another one. The crash report shows that, prior to the car veering off the road, 2NM of torque was applied to the steering wheel disengaging FSD and that the turning force was applied until the car crashed. The brake was never pressed. This person is just too embarrassed to admit they fell asleep at the wheel and the weight of their hand disengaged FSD. This could easily be cleared up if he showed the driver facing camera the car records in a crash.... But something tells me he won't do that. You don't fact check things very well. That's two blatant falsehoods you've swallowed. What else are you wrong about.
- Spooky23 1y ago
  Well if you applied Tesla’s rationalization for their failures, if the driver fell asleep before the crash, it clearly wasn’t his fault as he wasn’t in control.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  How is what I said a lie?? My initial post said: "they can't be programmed to not do things, like not run though a picture of a road like Wile E Coyote." Then someone said: "That video was not FSD, but an old version of “driver assist”." Then I linked a video showing that in fact FSD was driving through the wall. Obviously if you have to upgrade the hardware to not run through the wall, then they can't program their current cars to not do so. Because, as I've said since the beginning: their sensors stack is insufficient. And that's the standard line with Tesla fans is constantly shifting the goal posts. It was supposed to be the case that in 2016, all Teslas sold would be equipped with hardware capable of self driving, because Elon told us that cameras were enough. And yet, they have required hardware refresh after hardware refresh after hardware refresh (now on V5) because he's been wrong time and time again. Because cameras aren't enough. And what is this progress you speak of? Just special casing edge cases while leaving fundamentally flawed hardware and software on the road. Now it's 2025 and maybe finally HW5 will bring it? I guess we'll have to see because nothing Elon says can be trusted as fact. > This person is just too embarrassed to admit they fell asleep at the wheel and the weight of their hand disengaged FSD Ah yes, a driverless system that actually doesn't prevent you from crashing because you fell asleep. I don't know why you feel this alternative take makes Tesla's product look any better. Such progress. Much driverless. It's like a sailboat that sinks instead of floating.
  - enslavedrobot 1y ago
    Facts: FSD will not randomly drive off the road and your post showed a human turning the steering wheel by accident. Progress: HW4>HW3 and HW4 cars can see painted walls HW5 exists and will be deployed soon. Goalposts shifted by you = 2
    - ModernMech 1y ago
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