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They chosen Asian traits that Western beauty standards fetishize that in Asia wouldn't be taken serious at all. I notice American text2image models tend to gen

They chosen Asian traits that Western beauty standards fetishize that in Asia wouldn't be taken serious at all. I notice American text2image models tend to generate less attractive and more darker skinned humans where as Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans. I think this is another area where Chinese AI models shine.

throwaway314155 1y ago
> notice American text2image models tend to generate less attractive and more darker skinned humans where as Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans This seems entirely subjective to me.
viraptor 1y ago
> They chosen Asian traits that Western beauty standards fetishize that in Asia wouldn't be taken serious at all. > where as Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans. Are you saying they have chosen Asian traits that Asian beauty standards fetishize that in the West wouldn't be taken seriously at all? ;) There is no ground truth here that would be more correct one way or the other.
turnsout 1y ago
Wow, that is some straight-up overt racism. You should be ashamed.
- fc417fc802 1y ago
  It reads as racist if you parse it as (skin tone and attractiveness) but if you instead parse it as (skin tone) and (attractiveness), ie as two entirely unrelated characteristics of the output, then it reads as nothing more than a claim about relative differences in behavior between models. Of course, given the sensitivity of the topic it is arguably somewhat inappropriate to make such observations without sufficient effort to clarify the precise meaning.
  - pkkkzip 1y ago
    I find that people who are hypersensitive to racism are usually themselves pretty racist. It's like people who are aroused by something taboo are usually the biggest critic. I forget what this phenomena is called.
    - turnsout 1y ago
      Calling out overt racism is not “hypersensitivity” and in what fucking world could it be racism? This mentality is why the tech industry is so screwed up.
  - turnsout 1y ago
    You have your head in your ass. Read the text: > Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans. > I think this is another area where Chinese AI models shine. That is racism. There simply is no other way to classify it.
- astrange 1y ago
  Asians can be pretty colorist within themselves and they're not going to listen to you when you tell them it's bad. Asian women love skin-lightening creams. This particular woman looks Vietnamese to me, but I agree nothing about her appearance looks like anyone's fashion I know. But I only know California ABGs so that doesn't mean much.

throwaway314155 1y ago

> notice American text2image models tend to generate less attractive and more darker skinned humans where as Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans This seems entirely subjective to me.

viraptor 1y ago

> They chosen Asian traits that Western beauty standards fetishize that in Asia wouldn't be taken serious at all. > where as Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans. Are you saying they have chosen Asian traits that Asian beauty standards fetishize that in the West wouldn't be taken seriously at all? ;) There is no ground truth here that would be more correct one way or the other.

turnsout 1y ago

Wow, that is some straight-up overt racism. You should be ashamed.

fc417fc802 1y ago
It reads as racist if you parse it as (skin tone and attractiveness) but if you instead parse it as (skin tone) and (attractiveness), ie as two entirely unrelated characteristics of the output, then it reads as nothing more than a claim about relative differences in behavior between models. Of course, given the sensitivity of the topic it is arguably somewhat inappropriate to make such observations without sufficient effort to clarify the precise meaning.
- pkkkzip 1y ago
  I find that people who are hypersensitive to racism are usually themselves pretty racist. It's like people who are aroused by something taboo are usually the biggest critic. I forget what this phenomena is called.
  - turnsout 1y ago
    Calling out overt racism is not “hypersensitivity” and in what fucking world could it be racism? This mentality is why the tech industry is so screwed up.
- turnsout 1y ago
  You have your head in your ass. Read the text: > Chinese text2image generate attractive and more light skinned humans. > I think this is another area where Chinese AI models shine. That is racism. There simply is no other way to classify it.
astrange 1y ago
Asians can be pretty colorist within themselves and they're not going to listen to you when you tell them it's bad. Asian women love skin-lightening creams. This particular woman looks Vietnamese to me, but I agree nothing about her appearance looks like anyone's fashion I know. But I only know California ABGs so that doesn't mean much.