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> How many times did Jesus show violence or aggression? That’s the only one I can think of really. I think you might be forgetting about the bulk of the Old Te

> How many times did Jesus show violence or aggression? That’s the only one I can think of really. I think you might be forgetting about the bulk of the Old Testament

meetingthrower 1y ago
Pre-JC...
- freedomben 1y ago
  > 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2. He was in the beginning with God. 3. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. (John 1:1-3) > I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:8). > And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment” (Revelation 21:6). > “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (Revelation 22:13).
acdha 1y ago
Jesus is a New Testament figure and very explicitly broke with the past in key ways. This is why his followers are not required to keep kosher, commit genocide, or abstain from having tattoos or mixed fiber clothing.
- freedomben 1y ago
  No, they're not required to keep kosher, commit genocide, or abstain from having tattoos or mixed fiber clothing because he fulfilled the law, not because he replaced it[1]. Furthermore Jesus was the God of the Old Testament, at least if you accept the New Testament as scripture[2]. [1]: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." --Matthew 5:17 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44130537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44130537
  - acdha 1y ago
    Your first paragraph is repeating my point: Christians are not bound by the same rules as the Jews in the Old Testament. As for the second, you’re leaving out the last couple of millennia of Christians debating the exact nature of God and fissuring into different groups over the details. Most variants recognize some difference between the OT and NT gods, however, because you have to explain the difference in their actions and instructions.
Tyr42 1y ago
The pre Jesus books?
- freedomben 1y ago
  Are you suggesting Jesus wasn't the God of the Old Testament? If so that's a fair defense, but it's also not Christian...
dragonwriter 1y ago
> > How many times did Jesus show violence or aggression? That’s the only one I can think of really. > I think you might be forgetting about the bulk of the Old Testament I'm pretty certain Jesus Christ does not show violence or aggression in the OT even as much as the one time being described as him showing violence or aggression in the NT. I mean, I think that's a necessary consequence of a pretty fundamental element of the OT vs. NT distinction.
Zigurd 1y ago
Holy continuity problem, Batman! That character only shows up in the sequel.

> How many times did Jesus show violence or aggression? That’s the only one I can think of really. I think you might be forgetting about the bulk of the Old Testament

meetingthrower 1y ago

Pre-JC...

freedomben 1y ago
> 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2. He was in the beginning with God. 3. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. (John 1:1-3) > I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:8). > And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment” (Revelation 21:6). > “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (Revelation 22:13).

acdha 1y ago

Jesus is a New Testament figure and very explicitly broke with the past in key ways. This is why his followers are not required to keep kosher, commit genocide, or abstain from having tattoos or mixed fiber clothing.

freedomben 1y ago
No, they're not required to keep kosher, commit genocide, or abstain from having tattoos or mixed fiber clothing because he fulfilled the law, not because he replaced it[1]. Furthermore Jesus was the God of the Old Testament, at least if you accept the New Testament as scripture[2]. [1]: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." --Matthew 5:17 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44130537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44130537
- acdha 1y ago
  Your first paragraph is repeating my point: Christians are not bound by the same rules as the Jews in the Old Testament. As for the second, you’re leaving out the last couple of millennia of Christians debating the exact nature of God and fissuring into different groups over the details. Most variants recognize some difference between the OT and NT gods, however, because you have to explain the difference in their actions and instructions.

Tyr42 1y ago

The pre Jesus books?

freedomben 1y ago
Are you suggesting Jesus wasn't the God of the Old Testament? If so that's a fair defense, but it's also not Christian...

dragonwriter 1y ago

> > How many times did Jesus show violence or aggression? That’s the only one I can think of really. > I think you might be forgetting about the bulk of the Old Testament I'm pretty certain Jesus Christ does not show violence or aggression in the OT even as much as the one time being described as him showing violence or aggression in the NT. I mean, I think that's a necessary consequence of a pretty fundamental element of the OT vs. NT distinction.

Zigurd 1y ago

Holy continuity problem, Batman! That character only shows up in the sequel.