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Come back and reign for a thousand years, but not touch private contact law and definitively let you keep and enjoy the fruits of the money you bet on him. Yea
by vintermann 1y ago
Come back and reign for a thousand years, but not touch private contact law and definitively let you keep and enjoy the fruits of the money you bet on him.
Yeah, I won't rule out that they exist, but I think there are far better ways of "betting on Jesus" according to most denominations. I think price fluctuations in a market like this is more down to people betting on a bigger fool coming along, or otherwise convinced themselves that they can make money off this without actually believing in the outcome.
- MisterTea 1y ago> Yeah, I won't rule out that they exist, Word of Faith/Prosperity churches - God is a genie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology
- hinkley 1y agoClassically, the Devil follows the djinn trope. It’s weird that Jesus is slowly being cast into that same role.
- korse 1y agoDjinn trope? Point me at some relevant scholarship. I've always found the 1001 nights djinn interesting characters.
- hinkley 1y agoThe notion of being careful what you wish for because you just might get it is embodied in djinn, genies, Pandora, and the devil. You get what you asked for and not what you wanted.
- toast0 1y agoSounds like programming :P
- ZoomZoomZoom 1y agoOnly if you're good at it.
- MonkeyClub 1y agoEven if you're bad at it, you still get what you asked for. It just may be more distant from what you wanted the worse you are.
- ZoomZoomZoom 1y agoYeah, that's one way of looking at it. The other is: the whole stack is full of bugs, ambiguities, UB, wrong docs, non-covered edge cases, etc.
- vintermann 1y agoIf that's the trope, then Jesus embodies it too. Because that's very much the case in the "Verily, they have their reward" part. Wish for approval from men for your pious or charitable deeds, and approval from men is what you get - rather than approval from God/eternal life. Another example of Jesus being very non-consequentialist: why you do a thing matters completely.
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- wahern 1y ago> Come back and reign for a thousand years, but not touch private contact law and definitively let you keep and enjoy the fruits of the money you bet on him. Modern Evangelical Christian movements have from the beginning incorporated (classically) liberal political theory, including economic theory, into their theology, not merely their ethics (as almost all faiths must do to some extent). But more recently there has been incorporation of more (classically) illiberal libertarian and conservative ideas in their theology. Someone else pointed out Prosperity Gospel, but the new hotness is the idea that charity and empathy is un-Christian. (Or to steel man it, the idea is that excessive charity and empathy is un-Christian, but that begs alot of questions and arguably invites more self-serving utilitarian line drawing--the movement presupposes that contemporary American political culture is too charitable and empathetic.)
- hinkley 1y agoJohn Goodman’s character in O Brother was a man who realized selling bibles was a lucrative business. He was a con man. I think you’re on the right track. It’s not the betters but the bookie who you need to look askance at here.
- throwup238 1y ago> John Goodman’s character in O Brother was a man who realized selling bibles was a lucrative business. He was a con man. John Goodman also played the patriarch of a Megachurch family in the Righteous Gemstones. Maybe there's a pattern there? He did play a Senator in Alpha House too.
- ahowes83 1y agoHe looks like a “Good Old Boy”