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Razr might have been a bit too early for that ? ( mandatory Razr 2 V9 ad : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJyr6HO617w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJyr6HO6

Razr might have been a bit too early for that ? ( mandatory Razr 2 V9 ad : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJyr6HO617w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJyr6HO617w ) How well did it ran ? More importantly, how expensive would have been the data usage in 2005 ? (Would have depended heavily on location I guess.) I only remember starting using it on the Nokia N75/N95, so a smartphone already (Symbian OS, slider form, keypad). By that point (2007-2009) data costs had come down to a (what felt cheap at the time) 1024€/Go, as well as data speeds : up — though looks like Razr got 3G in 2005 already, so data speeds might not have been a bottleneck ? — so heavy browsing became possible. Though I mostly used it indeed for RSS feeds (especially Slashdot). Desktop Opera had a great RSS feed reader too ! ---- And email client. That desktop Opera 12 (2012) is probably still the best browser that had ever been made. Meanwhile Firefox only got built-in tab groups back in 2025 ! (It lost them in 2016.) https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/11/hands-on-opera-11-tab-stacking-vs-firefox-panorama/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/11/hands... (Any browser built on Apple's WebKit or Google's Chromium (like the company that now owns the Opera brand, or even Vivaldi, the true Opera successor) being of course out of the question, especially in 2025.)

lysace 1y ago
> Razr might have been a bit too early for that ? Opera Mini worked on the original Razr. Painfully slowly and with that giant cheesy font though. And that ZX81-like painful keypad. We spent a fun day chasing down some weird bug in its TCP implementation to make it work reliably. I don't remember the exact details but the workaround was to wait a few seconds before closing the TCP connection after being done sending data. Edit: Heh, found a sorta modern video showing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPZoQ_1kE8&t=834s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPZoQ_1kE8&t=834s
- BlueTemplar 1y ago
  Yes, my apologies for the misunderstanding : I have no doubt it technically worked (as I had done it myself on the Razr, just to check it out), just that it was painful — and yeah, those «fake» (?) buttons would have made it even worse.

lysace 1y ago

> Razr might have been a bit too early for that ? Opera Mini worked on the original Razr. Painfully slowly and with that giant cheesy font though. And that ZX81-like painful keypad. We spent a fun day chasing down some weird bug in its TCP implementation to make it work reliably. I don't remember the exact details but the workaround was to wait a few seconds before closing the TCP connection after being done sending data. Edit: Heh, found a sorta modern video showing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPZoQ_1kE8&t=834s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPZoQ_1kE8&t=834s

BlueTemplar 1y ago
Yes, my apologies for the misunderstanding : I have no doubt it technically worked (as I had done it myself on the Razr, just to check it out), just that it was painful — and yeah, those «fake» (?) buttons would have made it even worse.