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Did you see last weeks video of FSD in Melbourne, even doing a hook turn? It’s getting better. Slowly, but surely.

ModernMech 1y ago
Teslas can be programmed to do a lot of things, that's not a question. The problem with Teslas is given the deficient sensor suite Musk has insisted on, they can't be programmed to not do things, like not run though a picture of a road like Wile E Coyote.
- testing22321 1y ago
  That video was not FSD, but an old version of “driver assist”. Given how quickly things are changing, I don’t think it’s useful to say iPhones are crap and always will be because you just got a 6 running super old iOS.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    No, FSD suffers the same problem, because it has the same insufficient sensor stack. I already debunked that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43614273 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43614273 Things are not changing rapidly, this has been a failure mode on Teslas for almost a decade; it's been a problem at least since 2016 when Joshua Brown was decapitated by his Tesla running on AP. People keep saying "no, that was the last version. The new software/hardware version fixes it", but the looney tunes test demonstrates Tesla's sensor stack continues to be fundamentally insufficient. And this is why: https://insideevs.com/news/658439/elon-musk-overruled-tesla-autopilot-engineers-radar-removal/ https://insideevs.com/news/658439/elon-musk-overruled-tesla-... Musk thinks he knows better than his engineers how to solve this. And no, I don't consider Musk to be an engineer, he's a showman.
    - enslavedrobot 1y ago
      The link to your earlier post shows a HW3 car. If you keep watching the video it shows a second HW4 car stopping before the painted wall. This is literally the definition of progress. Tesla is currently developing HW5 which has 10x the inference capability of HW3. More progress.
      - ModernMech 1y ago
        You call this progress? https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers-off-road-flips-car-scary-crash-driver-couldnt-prevent/ https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers... My chin split open, and I had to get 7 stitches. After the impact, I was hanging upside down watching blood drip down to the glass sun roof, not knowing where I was bleeding from. I unbuckled my seatbelt and sat on the fabric interior in the middle of the two front seats, and saw that my phone’s crash detection went off and told me the first responders were on their way. My whole body was in shock from the incident. Wally said he was on Tesla FSD v13.2.8 on Hardware 4, Tesla’s latest FSD technology. He requested that Tesla send him the data from his car to better understand what happened. This is not progress, these cars should not be on the road, they are a menace to society. I would never put my life or my family's lives in the hands of Tesla hardware and software. But let me guess, it'll be fixed in HW5, sure. We all just have to be the beta testers.
        enslavedrobot 1y ago
        Lol. Don't bother defending your initial blatant lie, just move on to another one. The crash report shows that, prior to the car veering off the road, 2NM of torque was applied to the steering wheel disengaging FSD and that the turning force was applied until the car crashed. The brake was never pressed. This person is just too embarrassed to admit they fell asleep at the wheel and the weight of their hand disengaged FSD. This could easily be cleared up if he showed the driver facing camera the car records in a crash.... But something tells me he won't do that. You don't fact check things very well. That's two blatant falsehoods you've swallowed. What else are you wrong about.
        1y ago
- infecto 1y ago
  We get it. You have a bone to pick with Musk. I don’t like him either but don’t generate lies just to fuel your anger.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    Where's the lie?

Teslas can be programmed to do a lot of things, that's not a question. The problem with Teslas is given the deficient sensor suite Musk has insisted on, they can't be programmed to not do things, like not run though a picture of a road like Wile E Coyote.

testing22321 1y ago
That video was not FSD, but an old version of “driver assist”. Given how quickly things are changing, I don’t think it’s useful to say iPhones are crap and always will be because you just got a 6 running super old iOS.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  No, FSD suffers the same problem, because it has the same insufficient sensor stack. I already debunked that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43614273 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43614273 Things are not changing rapidly, this has been a failure mode on Teslas for almost a decade; it's been a problem at least since 2016 when Joshua Brown was decapitated by his Tesla running on AP. People keep saying "no, that was the last version. The new software/hardware version fixes it", but the looney tunes test demonstrates Tesla's sensor stack continues to be fundamentally insufficient. And this is why: https://insideevs.com/news/658439/elon-musk-overruled-tesla-autopilot-engineers-radar-removal/ https://insideevs.com/news/658439/elon-musk-overruled-tesla-... Musk thinks he knows better than his engineers how to solve this. And no, I don't consider Musk to be an engineer, he's a showman.
  - enslavedrobot 1y ago
    The link to your earlier post shows a HW3 car. If you keep watching the video it shows a second HW4 car stopping before the painted wall. This is literally the definition of progress. Tesla is currently developing HW5 which has 10x the inference capability of HW3. More progress.
    - ModernMech 1y ago
      You call this progress? https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers-off-road-flips-car-scary-crash-driver-couldnt-prevent/ https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers... My chin split open, and I had to get 7 stitches. After the impact, I was hanging upside down watching blood drip down to the glass sun roof, not knowing where I was bleeding from. I unbuckled my seatbelt and sat on the fabric interior in the middle of the two front seats, and saw that my phone’s crash detection went off and told me the first responders were on their way. My whole body was in shock from the incident. Wally said he was on Tesla FSD v13.2.8 on Hardware 4, Tesla’s latest FSD technology. He requested that Tesla send him the data from his car to better understand what happened. This is not progress, these cars should not be on the road, they are a menace to society. I would never put my life or my family's lives in the hands of Tesla hardware and software. But let me guess, it'll be fixed in HW5, sure. We all just have to be the beta testers.
      - enslavedrobot 1y ago
        Lol. Don't bother defending your initial blatant lie, just move on to another one. The crash report shows that, prior to the car veering off the road, 2NM of torque was applied to the steering wheel disengaging FSD and that the turning force was applied until the car crashed. The brake was never pressed. This person is just too embarrassed to admit they fell asleep at the wheel and the weight of their hand disengaged FSD. This could easily be cleared up if he showed the driver facing camera the car records in a crash.... But something tells me he won't do that. You don't fact check things very well. That's two blatant falsehoods you've swallowed. What else are you wrong about.
        1y ago
infecto 1y ago
We get it. You have a bone to pick with Musk. I don’t like him either but don’t generate lies just to fuel your anger.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  Where's the lie?