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> Apple is like "I'm pretty content with how much money I make". What a laughably silly depiction of a multi-trillion dollar company. Their predatory app sto

> Apple is like "I'm pretty content with how much money I make". What a laughably silly depiction of a multi-trillion dollar company. Their predatory app store policies, defended (and lost) in court, paint a completely different picture. Just one of dozens of examples. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-executive-outright-lied-under-082407298.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-executive-outright-lied...

SecretDreams 1y ago
I mostly meant it in the context of why they are so behind in AI... Sorry for the nuance.
- blinding-streak 1y ago
  Ahh, acknowledged. However, please understand, they also have a massive AI division. It was led for years by John G. He just got ousted from the position. They're just not very good at AI in their own walled garden. It's not for a lack of trying.
  - slowmovintarget 1y ago
    Ironically, they're not "good" at it because they're fighting their own privacy and security features in IOS and MacOS. Siri can't do everything because there isn't a full pants-down mode for OS features. "Siri, adjust my schedule to work in a 30 minute walk this afternoon." "Siri, find a photo of a Koala, turn it into a cartoon, and make a logo for my Github project." Coordinated actions are what we're looking for, but they blow through all of the app security walls. Even if Apple's software could act like this, I don't think I'd use it. If it could do these things, it could also do things like broadcast my private files to everyone in my contact list... etc. We have to get dramatically more sophisticated about security with agents than we are now.
    - mbirth 1y ago
      You might be interested in Sky, which is supposedly coming later this year: https://sky.app/ https://sky.app/ (Check the link to the MacStories article at the bottom to get a great overview of the capabilities.) Also, Siri / Apple Intelligence is bound to the local processing power as everything is handled on-device - compared to other AIs that can use the computing power of a whole datacentre.

SecretDreams 1y ago

I mostly meant it in the context of why they are so behind in AI... Sorry for the nuance.

blinding-streak 1y ago
Ahh, acknowledged. However, please understand, they also have a massive AI division. It was led for years by John G. He just got ousted from the position. They're just not very good at AI in their own walled garden. It's not for a lack of trying.
- slowmovintarget 1y ago
  Ironically, they're not "good" at it because they're fighting their own privacy and security features in IOS and MacOS. Siri can't do everything because there isn't a full pants-down mode for OS features. "Siri, adjust my schedule to work in a 30 minute walk this afternoon." "Siri, find a photo of a Koala, turn it into a cartoon, and make a logo for my Github project." Coordinated actions are what we're looking for, but they blow through all of the app security walls. Even if Apple's software could act like this, I don't think I'd use it. If it could do these things, it could also do things like broadcast my private files to everyone in my contact list... etc. We have to get dramatically more sophisticated about security with agents than we are now.
  - mbirth 1y ago
    You might be interested in Sky, which is supposedly coming later this year: https://sky.app/ https://sky.app/ (Check the link to the MacStories article at the bottom to get a great overview of the capabilities.) Also, Siri / Apple Intelligence is bound to the local processing power as everything is handled on-device - compared to other AIs that can use the computing power of a whole datacentre.