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Stealing other people's output and then cutting them off from discovery isn't a right either. Since politicians do not protect us from these criminals, we are

Stealing other people's output and then cutting them off from discovery isn't a right either. Since politicians do not protect us from these criminals, we are fortunate that no one except for CEOs under the influence of cocaine wants "AI".

thedevilslawyer 1y ago
You (and others) keep using "stealing" and "robbing". I get emotions are high because of the impact of AI, but in no meaningful/legal sense is this true. Is there space for nuanced/critical discussion?
- bgwalter 1y ago
  I do have a reply, but I'll save it for an article that stays on the front page so people will see it. This interesting article has dropped to page 3 within minutes.
  - camel_Snake 1y ago
    Would you describe this new, lower ranking as censorship?
    - ipaddr 1y ago
      Yes.
- toss1 1y ago
  One organization has already monopolistic power. It encourages, with monetary rewards thousands to change careers to build properties "written by people for people", with a clear exchange: "you build good human content, we'll promote it". Then they unilaterally change the deal to basically, "you create the content, we will take it and without attribution, slice & dice it into our automated output". It is straight-up bait and switch, and absolutely unethical. Just because it was not planned a decade in advance and was just opportunistic does not make it any more ethical (that'd be like arguing it was more ethical for you to steal a car because the keys were dropped next to it vs planning to hotwire the car). And yes, I'm 100% in agreement with the caveats that building a business based on someone else's platform is like building a house on sand — a definitely risky idea. But the risk that the big player will change their platform is one thing, the risk they'll actively steal from you is another risk people weren't taking.
- ipaddr 1y ago
  They come to your site record all your content and show it at the top of the page like they wrote it. When someone does that with a book, a movie or science paper it's called stealing. What would you call it?
  - ZeroTalent 1y ago
    that's not how AI results work.
mulmen 1y ago
How is it stealing if the information was posted on a public website? How do you steal something that is free? If I read a travel site then make a recommendation to a friend did I steal?

thedevilslawyer 1y ago

You (and others) keep using "stealing" and "robbing". I get emotions are high because of the impact of AI, but in no meaningful/legal sense is this true. Is there space for nuanced/critical discussion?

bgwalter 1y ago
I do have a reply, but I'll save it for an article that stays on the front page so people will see it. This interesting article has dropped to page 3 within minutes.
- camel_Snake 1y ago
  Would you describe this new, lower ranking as censorship?
  - ipaddr 1y ago
    Yes.
toss1 1y ago
One organization has already monopolistic power. It encourages, with monetary rewards thousands to change careers to build properties "written by people for people", with a clear exchange: "you build good human content, we'll promote it". Then they unilaterally change the deal to basically, "you create the content, we will take it and without attribution, slice & dice it into our automated output". It is straight-up bait and switch, and absolutely unethical. Just because it was not planned a decade in advance and was just opportunistic does not make it any more ethical (that'd be like arguing it was more ethical for you to steal a car because the keys were dropped next to it vs planning to hotwire the car). And yes, I'm 100% in agreement with the caveats that building a business based on someone else's platform is like building a house on sand — a definitely risky idea. But the risk that the big player will change their platform is one thing, the risk they'll actively steal from you is another risk people weren't taking.
ipaddr 1y ago
They come to your site record all your content and show it at the top of the page like they wrote it. When someone does that with a book, a movie or science paper it's called stealing. What would you call it?
- ZeroTalent 1y ago
  that's not how AI results work.

mulmen 1y ago

How is it stealing if the information was posted on a public website? How do you steal something that is free? If I read a travel site then make a recommendation to a friend did I steal?