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> As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What

> As one Google executive recently explained: “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore. What’s cool is a quadrillion dollars.” This uncited, anonymous quote sounds very made up. Cursory search couldn't find anything like this. Regardless, while the article makes some good points, it is also dripping with entitlement. Google gave you incredible monetizable traffic for two+ decades. At some point you need to capture your audience and make a real connection with them so they don't need Google to interact with you. Give them a value prop.

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helsinkiandrew 1y ago
> This uncited, anonymous quote sounds very made up. Cursory search couldn't find anything like this. Quote is from Noam Shazeer (of transformer fame) in the Dwarkesh Podcast: https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer
- popcorncowboy 1y ago
  And the Social Network: https://youtu.be/Rqnt17APIbc?si=ytKruPAWZ9lAlnOz&t=283 https://youtu.be/Rqnt17APIbc?si=ytKruPAWZ9lAlnOz&t=283
- rsync 1y ago
  This kind of thinking is a cancer. The paperclip optimizers are already here - they were always with us.
itchyjunk 1y ago
Noam Shazeer says it at some point in the Dwarkesh Patel podcast. Edit : Saw multiple people comment by the time I hit sent. Was it also memorable for you guys? I think it was just the way he said it or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0gjI__RyCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0gjI__RyCY
- rapnie 1y ago
  It was the giddy techbro optimism that struck me most with a "Hey, if all this quadrillion dollar value comes to Google it surely will greatly benefit all of society". While we are talking here effectively about a near-monopolistic advertisement moloch that is the epitomy of surveillance capitalism.
  - toss1 1y ago
    Small quibble: Google is at the top of the food chain of surveillance capitalism, but Palantir, quietly aggregating every bit of available info to profile and make predictions about every person, is truly the apex predator of that food chain
drtgh 1y ago
Two minutes in a search engine that is Not Google: > Shazeer says he’s excited about Google expanding its focus to include helping users create new AI-generated content. “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore,” he said recently on a podcast[2]. “What's cool is a quadrillion dollars.” [1] https://www.wired.com/story/google-openai-gemini-chatgpt-artificial-intelligence/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-openai-gemini-chatgpt-art... [2] at minute 29:18 , https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer
PGenes 1y ago
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benterix 1y ago
> Google gave you incredible monetizable traffic for two+ decades. You forgot to add "for free" /s (I mean, really? Google made billions on being a better browser than Yahoo!, AltaVista, AOL Search and whatever was there. They build up people's trust only to abuse it to the limits in practically every area they could get away with.)
eviks 1y ago
Cursory google search quadrillion dollars "Organizing information" brings up multiple sources on the first page

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helsinkiandrew 1y ago

> This uncited, anonymous quote sounds very made up. Cursory search couldn't find anything like this. Quote is from Noam Shazeer (of transformer fame) in the Dwarkesh Podcast: https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer

popcorncowboy 1y ago
And the Social Network: https://youtu.be/Rqnt17APIbc?si=ytKruPAWZ9lAlnOz&t=283 https://youtu.be/Rqnt17APIbc?si=ytKruPAWZ9lAlnOz&t=283
rsync 1y ago
This kind of thinking is a cancer. The paperclip optimizers are already here - they were always with us.

itchyjunk 1y ago

Noam Shazeer says it at some point in the Dwarkesh Patel podcast. Edit : Saw multiple people comment by the time I hit sent. Was it also memorable for you guys? I think it was just the way he said it or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0gjI__RyCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0gjI__RyCY

rapnie 1y ago
It was the giddy techbro optimism that struck me most with a "Hey, if all this quadrillion dollar value comes to Google it surely will greatly benefit all of society". While we are talking here effectively about a near-monopolistic advertisement moloch that is the epitomy of surveillance capitalism.
- toss1 1y ago
  Small quibble: Google is at the top of the food chain of surveillance capitalism, but Palantir, quietly aggregating every bit of available info to profile and make predictions about every person, is truly the apex predator of that food chain

drtgh 1y ago

Two minutes in a search engine that is Not Google: > Shazeer says he’s excited about Google expanding its focus to include helping users create new AI-generated content. “Organizing information is clearly a trillion-dollar opportunity, but a trillion dollars is not cool anymore,” he said recently on a podcast[2]. “What's cool is a quadrillion dollars.” [1] https://www.wired.com/story/google-openai-gemini-chatgpt-artificial-intelligence/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-openai-gemini-chatgpt-art... [2] at minute 29:18 , https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/jeff-dean-and-noam-shazeer

PGenes 1y ago

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benterix 1y ago

> Google gave you incredible monetizable traffic for two+ decades. You forgot to add "for free" /s (I mean, really? Google made billions on being a better browser than Yahoo!, AltaVista, AOL Search and whatever was there. They build up people's trust only to abuse it to the limits in practically every area they could get away with.)

eviks 1y ago

Cursory google search quadrillion dollars "Organizing information" brings up multiple sources on the first page