see comment below: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4412403 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4412403 Additionally: In AZ one can test for the EIT without

see comment below: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4412403 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4412403 Additionally: In AZ one can test for the EIT without a degree after four years of work experience (thus, you can start at 18, work instead of school, and still be at the same point as a college grad at 22: an EIT).