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Well due to it being open source their niche operating systems were able to run Linux software via a compatibility layer and Linux drivers making them better.

pjmlp 1y ago
Microsoft was right all along after all, what a waste of money in lawsuits, monoculture for the win. Likewise I guess there is no problem that game developers mainly care about Windows, Proton is open source, so no big deal, why bother.
- charcircuit 1y ago
  >monoculture for the win The browser is the actual product. An open source browser engine lowers the barrier of entry of creating new browsers. >Likewise I guess there is no problem that game developers mainly care about Windows, Proton is open source, so no big deal Which is why Valve recommends game developers to target Windows and use Proton for compatibility. Having one platform to target simplifies developers lives. Before developers were making bad ports to Linux because they did not have the resources to properly support another tech stacks. The value of developers being able to target a single platform can not be understated. Though this is fundamentally a different situation as the leading implementation is closed source and is more capable.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    There will be no browsers left, likewise the Year of Desktop Linux will never come, cursed forever to emulate/translate other platforms, ChromeOS and Windows, so that it can have any kind of applications, pretending to be "native".
    - charcircuit 1y ago
      What do you mean? Chrome, Edge, Opera, and Brave are all different browsers that share the same browser engine. The year of the Linux Desktop didn't come, but the year of the Linux phone did come with Android becoming the most popular operating system surpassing desktop operating systems. >pretending to be "native". The code is native. Just because something uses a library to call platform code it doesn't mean it isn't native. By that logic programs that use qt are not native because they use a cross platform api.
      - pjmlp 1y ago
        Effectively killing the Web freeddom, it is all about ChromeOS Computing platform. The Linux kernel is an implementation detail on Android, there is nothing about Linux exposed as official userspace API. Any use of Linuxisms on Android apps is done at user's own peril and possible kick out of PlayStore.
        charcircuit 1y ago
        I don't see how it would kill web freedom. If anything the reduction of duplicate work means that the web can evolve faster to better compete against its competitors to stay relevant and attractive for developers to target and support. >The Linux kernel is an implementation detail on Android The kernel is such an important part of an operating system, you can't really ignore it as a developer even if technically it may be an implementation detail. >Any use of Linuxisms on Android apps is done at user's own peril and possible kick out of PlayStore. Sure, but Linux's ABI is stable and even in a world where things are moved to Zircom starnix was made to support that same ABI.

pjmlp 1y ago

Microsoft was right all along after all, what a waste of money in lawsuits, monoculture for the win. Likewise I guess there is no problem that game developers mainly care about Windows, Proton is open source, so no big deal, why bother.

charcircuit 1y ago
>monoculture for the win The browser is the actual product. An open source browser engine lowers the barrier of entry of creating new browsers. >Likewise I guess there is no problem that game developers mainly care about Windows, Proton is open source, so no big deal Which is why Valve recommends game developers to target Windows and use Proton for compatibility. Having one platform to target simplifies developers lives. Before developers were making bad ports to Linux because they did not have the resources to properly support another tech stacks. The value of developers being able to target a single platform can not be understated. Though this is fundamentally a different situation as the leading implementation is closed source and is more capable.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  There will be no browsers left, likewise the Year of Desktop Linux will never come, cursed forever to emulate/translate other platforms, ChromeOS and Windows, so that it can have any kind of applications, pretending to be "native".
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    What do you mean? Chrome, Edge, Opera, and Brave are all different browsers that share the same browser engine. The year of the Linux Desktop didn't come, but the year of the Linux phone did come with Android becoming the most popular operating system surpassing desktop operating systems. >pretending to be "native". The code is native. Just because something uses a library to call platform code it doesn't mean it isn't native. By that logic programs that use qt are not native because they use a cross platform api.
    - pjmlp 1y ago
      Effectively killing the Web freeddom, it is all about ChromeOS Computing platform. The Linux kernel is an implementation detail on Android, there is nothing about Linux exposed as official userspace API. Any use of Linuxisms on Android apps is done at user's own peril and possible kick out of PlayStore.
      - charcircuit 1y ago
        I don't see how it would kill web freedom. If anything the reduction of duplicate work means that the web can evolve faster to better compete against its competitors to stay relevant and attractive for developers to target and support. >The Linux kernel is an implementation detail on Android The kernel is such an important part of an operating system, you can't really ignore it as a developer even if technically it may be an implementation detail. >Any use of Linuxisms on Android apps is done at user's own peril and possible kick out of PlayStore. Sure, but Linux's ABI is stable and even in a world where things are moved to Zircom starnix was made to support that same ABI.