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Telegram dont have E2EE by default. It's all you need to know. 99% of communications on Telegram are in plain text. Also Telegram banned or shadowbanned server

by SXX 1y ago

Telegram dont have E2EE by default. It's all you need to know. 99% of communications on Telegram are in plain text. Also Telegram banned or shadowbanned serveral protest channels / bots during elections and when war began.

0xy 1y ago
WhatsApp isn't E2EE by default either, since default flow pushes you to backup your key to Google Drive. Signal isn't E2EE, given the security blunder in which private images from your gallery were sent to random contacts (which indicates a scary state management situation in the apps, this isn't easy to do). E2EE implies that you purposely send content to specific people which is encrypted, not that your app sends potentially embarrassing or intimate pictures to your boss behind your back. That blunder is unforgivable.
- areyourllySorry 1y ago
  i think we have different definitions of e2ee.
- deleted 1y ago
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greenavocado 1y ago
Many Telegram groups are only Play Store banned or banned access is restricted based on the user's phone number. This is why you must install the APK from their website directly instead of using an App Store version.
- codedokode 1y ago
  It is ridiculous that Apple decides what Telegram users can or cannot see, especially banning harmless things like nudity but allowing cruel things like war videos or propaganda.
- SXX 1y ago
  This have nothing to do with Apple. One of largest anti-war public channels in Russia by relatives of mobilized people was marked as "FAKE" for a very long time by Durov's personal decision. Durov serves kremlin as much as any other company that operates in Russia.
  - greenavocado 1y ago
    It absolutely does have everything to do with Apple. Groups are not only marked "FAKE," they are completely banned for the App Store app users.
    - SXX 1y ago
      I'm not iPhone user to begin with. You completely missing the point.
      - greenavocado 1y ago
        Most channels are banned by App Stores, and not by Durov. What is your point?

by SXX 1y ago

0xy 1y ago

WhatsApp isn't E2EE by default either, since default flow pushes you to backup your key to Google Drive. Signal isn't E2EE, given the security blunder in which private images from your gallery were sent to random contacts (which indicates a scary state management situation in the apps, this isn't easy to do). E2EE implies that you purposely send content to specific people which is encrypted, not that your app sends potentially embarrassing or intimate pictures to your boss behind your back. That blunder is unforgivable.

areyourllySorry 1y ago
i think we have different definitions of e2ee.
deleted 1y ago
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greenavocado 1y ago

Many Telegram groups are only Play Store banned or banned access is restricted based on the user's phone number. This is why you must install the APK from their website directly instead of using an App Store version.

codedokode 1y ago
It is ridiculous that Apple decides what Telegram users can or cannot see, especially banning harmless things like nudity but allowing cruel things like war videos or propaganda.
SXX 1y ago
This have nothing to do with Apple. One of largest anti-war public channels in Russia by relatives of mobilized people was marked as "FAKE" for a very long time by Durov's personal decision. Durov serves kremlin as much as any other company that operates in Russia.
- greenavocado 1y ago
  It absolutely does have everything to do with Apple. Groups are not only marked "FAKE," they are completely banned for the App Store app users.
  - SXX 1y ago
    I'm not iPhone user to begin with. You completely missing the point.
    - greenavocado 1y ago
      Most channels are banned by App Stores, and not by Durov. What is your point?