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Lead programmer can now do projects alone. My experience is that AI is easier to work with than inexperienced junior coders. I designed database structure and

by nabla9 1y ago

Lead programmer can now do projects alone. My experience is that AI is easier to work with than inexperienced junior coders. I designed database structure and wrote function subs, and some comments, then asked AI to 1) fill the functions, 2) write unit tests while I work with interesting parts or read stuff. I think the result is much less errors compared to junior coder. You have to review the code just like with human. Time it takes is just little bit less than working with other person, but it's orders of magnitude cheaper. I'm certain that many will cut corners and ship code not reviewed by humans, but that's on them. Interesting question is, can inexperienced coder get more or less benefit from AI compared to experienced programmer, or is it skill multiplier.

_aavaa_ 1y ago
Replacing junior positions with AI is eating the seed corn.
- 3vidence 1y ago
  I think the whole "AI will replace developers" thing makes sense to people in silos. I want to do X I can ask AI to help me with X. But the thing is that as businesses grow and scale one person cannot even keep in their head all the things that have to get done, let alone write it in such a specific way to get an AI to accomplish it. Even Jr developers (if used correctly) are not just code assistants, they can actually take your mental load away as they grow and then provide projects / ideas that you didn't even originate. People have mental limits to how much they context they can keep in their head at the same time, AI does not magically solve this fact. Hire and develop talent, share the load.
  - zbentley 1y ago
    Nothing you said is wrong, but: > makes sense to people in silos Investors, especially PE investors, are in a motherfucker of a silo. The sign on their silo says "short term growth at all costs. ZIRP/dotcom boom days are never coming back. The last train is leaving the station, and even if it isn't the real deal like eCommerce/app stores/social media, you had better be on it, because there won't be another one." That last train is AI.
NoPicklez 1y ago
It's what many are saying about AI in general for the workforce, it frees up the "easier" tasks to allow people to do more high level work. I do think that as a junior using AI could speed up your learning in programming significantly. You essentially have a tutor in your back pocket who can help teach and also do some of the doing if you need it to.
jvanderbot 1y ago
This article is one paragraph long and shows that the market for programmers has increased between 17% or 23% by total employment (not job postings), since 2019. I think we've all been triggered into talking about how AI is taking our jobs, so much that any discussion of job market is inevitably about AI, but it's worth looking at real numbers, as presented in TFA, to challenge that narrative a little. Aside from all that, if the market slows, it seems to be slowing everywhere. I have friends in non-tech roles that are being laid off as well. It's probably the economy.

by nabla9 1y ago

_aavaa_ 1y ago

Replacing junior positions with AI is eating the seed corn.

3vidence 1y ago
I think the whole "AI will replace developers" thing makes sense to people in silos. I want to do X I can ask AI to help me with X. But the thing is that as businesses grow and scale one person cannot even keep in their head all the things that have to get done, let alone write it in such a specific way to get an AI to accomplish it. Even Jr developers (if used correctly) are not just code assistants, they can actually take your mental load away as they grow and then provide projects / ideas that you didn't even originate. People have mental limits to how much they context they can keep in their head at the same time, AI does not magically solve this fact. Hire and develop talent, share the load.
- zbentley 1y ago
  Nothing you said is wrong, but: > makes sense to people in silos Investors, especially PE investors, are in a motherfucker of a silo. The sign on their silo says "short term growth at all costs. ZIRP/dotcom boom days are never coming back. The last train is leaving the station, and even if it isn't the real deal like eCommerce/app stores/social media, you had better be on it, because there won't be another one." That last train is AI.

NoPicklez 1y ago

It's what many are saying about AI in general for the workforce, it frees up the "easier" tasks to allow people to do more high level work. I do think that as a junior using AI could speed up your learning in programming significantly. You essentially have a tutor in your back pocket who can help teach and also do some of the doing if you need it to.

jvanderbot 1y ago

This article is one paragraph long and shows that the market for programmers has increased between 17% or 23% by total employment (not job postings), since 2019. I think we've all been triggered into talking about how AI is taking our jobs, so much that any discussion of job market is inevitably about AI, but it's worth looking at real numbers, as presented in TFA, to challenge that narrative a little. Aside from all that, if the market slows, it seems to be slowing everywhere. I have friends in non-tech roles that are being laid off as well. It's probably the economy.