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Thanks as always for working on bootstrap, its an invaluable tool. Couple thoughts: Maybe its just me but I think the docs site a huge step backwards in usabi

by mbell 14y ago

Thanks as always for working on bootstrap, its an invaluable tool. Couple thoughts: Maybe its just me but I think the docs site a huge step backwards in usability. The dark blue <-> red graphics offset by the blue of their primary buttons is a little...gross. I am also not at all a fan of the left hand navigation panel, I get that they are trying to show off the affix component but I'd rather have the content be full width as its all I am really there for. I found the sliding top sub navbar far less obtrusive and easier to navigate. Also: so white is the default for the navbar but the demo site is still using black?

dangrossman 14y ago
I <3 Bootstrap, but I did find the old documentation easier on the eyes and easier to navigate as well.
- eungyu 14y ago
  This is just a speculation, but I think bootstrap-affix.js is their new baby. If there is one thing that the new navigation does well, it's promoting the affix js feature (scrollspy stuff).
- zakshay 14y ago
  I like the documentation navigation style using affix in rc - http://rc.getbootstrap.com/customize.html http://rc.getbootstrap.com/customize.html
zentrus 14y ago
+1 on left hand navigation being a bad idea. I now see 20% less information on the screen as I try to quickly find something.
- reedlaw 14y ago
  I like the new navigation and layout better because I can find everything in one large column. Before I had to scan both up/down and right/left because of the multi-column layout.
  - markdotto 14y ago
    Yup, that was what we wanted to avoid for this round of updates. Cmd+F is your best friend in docs, no matter the format. Either way, we'll strive to improve as much as we can with future updates.
lesbaker 14y ago
It's a lot harder for me to navigate the doc pages too because I'm scrolling a lot, lot more and the "sub-topic" nav-bar is gone (e.g. "Base CSS" page had "Typography", "Code", "Tables", etc.) Like you, I still appreciate the new functionality and continued development. EDIT: Went back and the styling of the docs changed again (was I hitting a cached page?). The subtopic navigation is back and on the left now. Still takes a while to scroll but it's an improvement.
markdotto 14y ago
Fair criticism, but the subnav we had before, like the navbar, just doesn't scale. Let's less obtrusive, but hinders us in a big way. It's tough doing nav that works for everyone everywhere, but hopefully this pans out for us and folks using Bootstrap. Edit: Also, the side nav came first, then the affix plugin. Originally I was proposing a fixed, independently-scrolling left sidebar, which we may still get to, but it felt decidedly un-Bootstrap-like for the time being.
- lloeki 14y ago
  I really, really loved the subnav, precisely because I use smallish width windows (routinely half of 1980px, thanks to window snapping) and at that size the left nav block feels like a complete waste of space (especially the huge blank area just below, given a height of 1080px).
conradfr 14y ago
So much scrolling ... For example skimming through the table css options, you see a lot less on one screen. 2.1 seems solid though, invaluable tool at my job.
cfontes 14y ago
I have the exact same opinion, the new doc page is a step backwards... It make me close it in 10s and I use TB in 2 of my projects and I love it, but that layout is simple terrible for people with smaller than 20" screens... please provide us another site with more reading area and minus menu. Anyway thanks a lot for this, I love TB it's great and you guys are my heroes :D

by mbell 14y ago

dangrossman 14y ago

I <3 Bootstrap, but I did find the old documentation easier on the eyes and easier to navigate as well.

eungyu 14y ago
This is just a speculation, but I think bootstrap-affix.js is their new baby. If there is one thing that the new navigation does well, it's promoting the affix js feature (scrollspy stuff).
zakshay 14y ago
I like the documentation navigation style using affix in rc - http://rc.getbootstrap.com/customize.html http://rc.getbootstrap.com/customize.html

zentrus 14y ago

+1 on left hand navigation being a bad idea. I now see 20% less information on the screen as I try to quickly find something.

reedlaw 14y ago
I like the new navigation and layout better because I can find everything in one large column. Before I had to scan both up/down and right/left because of the multi-column layout.
- markdotto 14y ago
  Yup, that was what we wanted to avoid for this round of updates. Cmd+F is your best friend in docs, no matter the format. Either way, we'll strive to improve as much as we can with future updates.

lesbaker 14y ago

It's a lot harder for me to navigate the doc pages too because I'm scrolling a lot, lot more and the "sub-topic" nav-bar is gone (e.g. "Base CSS" page had "Typography", "Code", "Tables", etc.) Like you, I still appreciate the new functionality and continued development. EDIT: Went back and the styling of the docs changed again (was I hitting a cached page?). The subtopic navigation is back and on the left now. Still takes a while to scroll but it's an improvement.

markdotto 14y ago

Fair criticism, but the subnav we had before, like the navbar, just doesn't scale. Let's less obtrusive, but hinders us in a big way. It's tough doing nav that works for everyone everywhere, but hopefully this pans out for us and folks using Bootstrap. Edit: Also, the side nav came first, then the affix plugin. Originally I was proposing a fixed, independently-scrolling left sidebar, which we may still get to, but it felt decidedly un-Bootstrap-like for the time being.

lloeki 14y ago
I really, really loved the subnav, precisely because I use smallish width windows (routinely half of 1980px, thanks to window snapping) and at that size the left nav block feels like a complete waste of space (especially the huge blank area just below, given a height of 1080px).

conradfr 14y ago

So much scrolling ... For example skimming through the table css options, you see a lot less on one screen. 2.1 seems solid though, invaluable tool at my job.

cfontes 14y ago

I have the exact same opinion, the new doc page is a step backwards... It make me close it in 10s and I use TB in 2 of my projects and I love it, but that layout is simple terrible for people with smaller than 20" screens... please provide us another site with more reading area and minus menu. Anyway thanks a lot for this, I love TB it's great and you guys are my heroes :D