> I have no idea how people are learning a language using an app for a few minutes a day They don't but this is also not the point and seems to account for the

> I have no idea how people are learning a language using an app for a few minutes a day They don't but this is also not the point and seems to account for the frustrations expressed in the conversation. Before I decided to get serious about learning Japanese I spent a few months on Duolingo. It taught me hiragana, katakana, a few kanji, maybe 1k words but obviously I couldn't really speak Japanese. But I also didn't expect to, I looked at it as "it's better than wasting another 10 minutes on twitter". And for that it worked perfectly well, honestly better than I thought.