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Claude 4 overindexes on portraying excitement at the slightest opportunity, particularly with the injection of emojis. The calm and collected manner of Claude

Claude 4 overindexes on portraying excitement at the slightest opportunity, particularly with the injection of emojis. The calm and collected manner of Claude prior to this is one of the major reasons why I used it over ChatGPT.

loufe 1y ago
The use of emojis is a source of small blips of anger I could really do without. I'm not sure why this sort of thing isn't a toggle.
- craigmccaskill 1y ago
  You can just add it to your master prompt. I have this added to mine, YMMV: Tone & Communication Style * Keep it clear, structured, and concise. * Maintain a professional tone but make it feel natural and human; avoid robotic or overly formal language. * Use a more conversational tone in casual, mentoring, or internal team contexts. * Do not use em-dashes or emoji unless specifically requested.
  - zukzuk 1y ago
    What do you have against em-dashes!?
    - ionwake 1y ago
      He wants to avoid people noticing he is copy pasting from the llm
      - thamer 1y ago
        They're not just from AI-generated text. Some of us humans use en dashes and em dashes in the right context, since they're easy to type on macOS: alt+hyphen and alt+shift+hyphen respectively. On both iOS and modern Android I believe you can access them with a long press on hyphen.
        ionwake 1y ago
        i think you replied to the wrong comment
      - craigmccaskill 1y ago
        They have their place but I'm really just trying to avoid the AI house style that has emerged. I'd rather have my writing—AI-assisted or not—reflect how I actually communicate rather than defaulting to patterns that have become over represented in generated text.
        ionwake 1y ago
        [flagged]
        craigmccaskill 1y ago
        That’s not really fair. I mean, I definitely use AI all over the place, but I think that the writing aspect is an important part of thinking too [1]. I still try to write things out myself when it matters. There’s something about wordsmithing that sharpens your thinking and that gets lost when you just drop something into an LLM and pull it out without much thought. Sure, I’ll use AI to help refine or explore ideas, but the core work often starts in my own head. I do write a lot myself, especially when I need to think something through clearly. I use AI tools like anyone else, but I still do the work. [1] https://craigmccaskill.com/writing-is-still-thinking https://craigmccaskill.com/writing-is-still-thinking
    - calrain 1y ago
      Everything!
    - weego 1y ago
      The world now believes that em-dashes are a sign of AI, I guess because it's seen as slightly archaic due to over use of the comma.
      - bredren 1y ago
        Given frequency of their usage, its a fair assumption. Emphasis using bold is also an easy tell.
      - turnsout 1y ago
        As a frequent user of em-dashes, it's quite frustrating, as I'm now self conscious about using them.
        ziml77 1y ago
        Awww no! Keep using them proudly! Don't let AI ruin the awesomeness that is the em-dash :)
      - beAbU 1y ago
        > slightly archaic How are em-dashes "slightly" archaic in this context? Can you point me to a single example of internet discourse from the last 30 years where a human used an em-dash unironically? Academic papers doesn't count, literature doesn't count. I'm looking for an example of human created discourse online. The crux of the allegation is that normal meatbag humans don't use an em-dash when conversing with one another online, or when writing informal texts, purely because there is no key for the em-dash on the keyboard (that I know of). I posit that the use of an em-dash in online discourse is so archaic that it's a 100% surefire giveaway of AI.
        Jeff_Brown 1y ago
        I use them all the time -- indeed I just did. I love em-dashes.
        handfuloflight 1y ago
therealpygon 1y ago
Well, they gotta cater to the LM Arena scoring of Gen whatever and internet degenerates that both want emojis in their text.
dogleash 1y ago
Corporate Memphis is the name for a visual language used by corporations seeking bland, soulless, deliberately-inhuman representation of people. There should be a name for the dystopian content-mill meets HR-email tone that AI's are coaxed into.

loufe 1y ago

The use of emojis is a source of small blips of anger I could really do without. I'm not sure why this sort of thing isn't a toggle.

craigmccaskill 1y ago
You can just add it to your master prompt. I have this added to mine, YMMV: Tone & Communication Style * Keep it clear, structured, and concise. * Maintain a professional tone but make it feel natural and human; avoid robotic or overly formal language. * Use a more conversational tone in casual, mentoring, or internal team contexts. * Do not use em-dashes or emoji unless specifically requested.
- zukzuk 1y ago
  What do you have against em-dashes!?
  - ionwake 1y ago
    He wants to avoid people noticing he is copy pasting from the llm
    - thamer 1y ago
      They're not just from AI-generated text. Some of us humans use en dashes and em dashes in the right context, since they're easy to type on macOS: alt+hyphen and alt+shift+hyphen respectively. On both iOS and modern Android I believe you can access them with a long press on hyphen.
      - ionwake 1y ago
        i think you replied to the wrong comment
    - craigmccaskill 1y ago
      They have their place but I'm really just trying to avoid the AI house style that has emerged. I'd rather have my writing—AI-assisted or not—reflect how I actually communicate rather than defaulting to patterns that have become over represented in generated text.
      - ionwake 1y ago
        [flagged]
        craigmccaskill 1y ago
        That’s not really fair. I mean, I definitely use AI all over the place, but I think that the writing aspect is an important part of thinking too [1]. I still try to write things out myself when it matters. There’s something about wordsmithing that sharpens your thinking and that gets lost when you just drop something into an LLM and pull it out without much thought. Sure, I’ll use AI to help refine or explore ideas, but the core work often starts in my own head. I do write a lot myself, especially when I need to think something through clearly. I use AI tools like anyone else, but I still do the work. [1] https://craigmccaskill.com/writing-is-still-thinking https://craigmccaskill.com/writing-is-still-thinking
  - calrain 1y ago
    Everything!
  - weego 1y ago
    The world now believes that em-dashes are a sign of AI, I guess because it's seen as slightly archaic due to over use of the comma.
    - bredren 1y ago
      Given frequency of their usage, its a fair assumption. Emphasis using bold is also an easy tell.
    - turnsout 1y ago
      As a frequent user of em-dashes, it's quite frustrating, as I'm now self conscious about using them.
      - ziml77 1y ago
        Awww no! Keep using them proudly! Don't let AI ruin the awesomeness that is the em-dash :)
    - beAbU 1y ago
      > slightly archaic How are em-dashes "slightly" archaic in this context? Can you point me to a single example of internet discourse from the last 30 years where a human used an em-dash unironically? Academic papers doesn't count, literature doesn't count. I'm looking for an example of human created discourse online. The crux of the allegation is that normal meatbag humans don't use an em-dash when conversing with one another online, or when writing informal texts, purely because there is no key for the em-dash on the keyboard (that I know of). I posit that the use of an em-dash in online discourse is so archaic that it's a 100% surefire giveaway of AI.
      - Jeff_Brown 1y ago
        I use them all the time -- indeed I just did. I love em-dashes.
        handfuloflight 1y ago

therealpygon 1y ago

Well, they gotta cater to the LM Arena scoring of Gen whatever and internet degenerates that both want emojis in their text.

dogleash 1y ago

Corporate Memphis is the name for a visual language used by corporations seeking bland, soulless, deliberately-inhuman representation of people. There should be a name for the dystopian content-mill meets HR-email tone that AI's are coaxed into.