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Many will disagree here, but I really respect Cloudflare fight against government-enabled censorship and abuse of power by anti-piracy whatever. Yes, sometimes

by SXX 1y ago

Many will disagree here, but I really respect Cloudflare fight against government-enabled censorship and abuse of power by anti-piracy whatever. Yes, sometimes CloudFlare used for some actually bad stuff, but same can be said for any cloud service. Having major internet infrastructure provider react to every whim of every single government in the world is not a good idea.

the_player 1y ago
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phoronixrly 1y ago
They aren't really fighting against censorship and especially anti-piracy censorship. If they were, they'd refuse to take down sites. Instead they've a streamlined process for just that purpose, and are only fighting because they have been censored, affecting their bottom line.
- SXX 1y ago
  Might be something have changed recently, but CloudFlare is kind a infamous for not taking down some questionable services. At the same time companies like Apple and Microsoft still continue to censor stuff on requests from Russia where they supposedly not operate.
- hashstring 1y ago
  Thank you, this is the truth. Cloudflare does not fight censorship. It actively helps create it. They have a strong team that delivers great products, but at the end of the day, it’s a for-profit company with as much for-profit morals that exist. Lookup Tor project problems and CrimeFlare. Cheers. https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/18361#note_2629333 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-...
- SoftTalker 1y ago
  Piracy only flourishes when the content is priced too high. Most people don't want to bother, pirate streams tend to be glitchy, low quality, and unreliable. But they will if they feel they are being bent over a barrel. Drop the price and most people will pay it. I.e. make it easy for people to do it the right way.
xk_id 1y ago
I think it’s extremely naive to think Cloudflare is anti-government. It’s more likely that they’re a US Intelligence company, whose purpose is to decrypt and monitor global internet traffic.
- SXX 1y ago
  This kind a sucks if you're inside the US, but as someone outside I'd rather use service reporting to single country intellegence rather than 100 of them.

by SXX 1y ago

the_player 1y ago

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phoronixrly 1y ago

They aren't really fighting against censorship and especially anti-piracy censorship. If they were, they'd refuse to take down sites. Instead they've a streamlined process for just that purpose, and are only fighting because they have been censored, affecting their bottom line.

SXX 1y ago
Might be something have changed recently, but CloudFlare is kind a infamous for not taking down some questionable services. At the same time companies like Apple and Microsoft still continue to censor stuff on requests from Russia where they supposedly not operate.
hashstring 1y ago
Thank you, this is the truth. Cloudflare does not fight censorship. It actively helps create it. They have a strong team that delivers great products, but at the end of the day, it’s a for-profit company with as much for-profit morals that exist. Lookup Tor project problems and CrimeFlare. Cheers. https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/18361#note_2629333 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-...
SoftTalker 1y ago
Piracy only flourishes when the content is priced too high. Most people don't want to bother, pirate streams tend to be glitchy, low quality, and unreliable. But they will if they feel they are being bent over a barrel. Drop the price and most people will pay it. I.e. make it easy for people to do it the right way.

xk_id 1y ago

I think it’s extremely naive to think Cloudflare is anti-government. It’s more likely that they’re a US Intelligence company, whose purpose is to decrypt and monitor global internet traffic.

SXX 1y ago
This kind a sucks if you're inside the US, but as someone outside I'd rather use service reporting to single country intellegence rather than 100 of them.