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I was going to reply that this is pretty common for web apps, e.g. NodeJS or many Python applications also do not use multi-threading, instead just spawning sep

I was going to reply that this is pretty common for web apps, e.g. NodeJS or many Python applications also do not use multi-threading, instead just spawning separate processes that run in parallel. But apparently, HN ran as 1 process on 1 core on 1 machine (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229548) O_O

galaxyLogic 1y ago
I think NodeJS apps typically rely on JavaScript event-loop instead of starting new processes all the time. Spawning new processes for every user is possible but would probabaly be less scalable than even thread-switching.
- watermelon0 1y ago
  NodeJS apps usually use multiple processes, since JS event loop is limited to a single core. However, this means that you cannot share data and connection pools between them.
- jay-barronville 1y ago
  > I think NodeJS apps typically rely on JavaScript event-loop instead of starting new processes all the time. > Spawning new processes for every user is possible but would probabaly be less scalable than even thread-switching. I’d just like to note/clarify that there is, in fact, multi-threading happening under the hood when running Node.js. libuv, the underlying library used for creating and managing the event loops, also creates and maintains thread pools that are used for some concurrent and parallelizable tasks. The fact that JavaScript (V8 in the case of Node.js) and the main event loop are single-threaded doesn’t mean that multi-threading isn’t involved. This is a common source of confusion.
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mbac32768 1y ago
HN is not really that much of a workload. Links with text only comments, each link gets a few hundred comments at most, and commenting on stories ends after they are old enough. Probably everything that's current fits easily in RAM and the older stories are candidates for serving from a static cache. I wouldn't say this is an astounding technical achievement so much as demonstrating that simplicity can fall out of good taste and resisting groupthink around "best practices".

galaxyLogic 1y ago

I think NodeJS apps typically rely on JavaScript event-loop instead of starting new processes all the time. Spawning new processes for every user is possible but would probabaly be less scalable than even thread-switching.

watermelon0 1y ago
NodeJS apps usually use multiple processes, since JS event loop is limited to a single core. However, this means that you cannot share data and connection pools between them.
jay-barronville 1y ago
> I think NodeJS apps typically rely on JavaScript event-loop instead of starting new processes all the time. > Spawning new processes for every user is possible but would probabaly be less scalable than even thread-switching. I’d just like to note/clarify that there is, in fact, multi-threading happening under the hood when running Node.js. libuv, the underlying library used for creating and managing the event loops, also creates and maintains thread pools that are used for some concurrent and parallelizable tasks. The fact that JavaScript (V8 in the case of Node.js) and the main event loop are single-threaded doesn’t mean that multi-threading isn’t involved. This is a common source of confusion.

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mbac32768 1y ago

HN is not really that much of a workload. Links with text only comments, each link gets a few hundred comments at most, and commenting on stories ends after they are old enough. Probably everything that's current fits easily in RAM and the older stories are candidates for serving from a static cache. I wouldn't say this is an astounding technical achievement so much as demonstrating that simplicity can fall out of good taste and resisting groupthink around "best practices".