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How. People oppose even paper straws. Most of the food can be and should be stripped of usage of plastic, but then there also is medical usage.
by cynicalsecurity 1y ago
How. People oppose even paper straws. Most of the food can be and should be stripped of usage of plastic, but then there also is medical usage.
- tehjoker 1y agoMedical usage is often necessary. Why not just start with things that are completely extraneous, like packaging, bottles, etc.
- i80and 1y agoWe should. But even small baby step measures with no downsides like plastic bag bans are wildly contentious. I live in a county that's enacted one, and it's been unambiguously an improvement for the area on top of the core goal of "reduce plastic waste". But visiters look at me like I live in East Germany when I mention that. I don't say this to discredit the idea, but it's politically treacherous, and not a lot of people are willing to stick their necks out for the right thing.
- const_cast 1y agoAfter a certain point we have to force consumer's hands and tell them to get the fuck over it. The level of inconvenience added to my life by not using plastic bags is so unbelievably small it's not even worth the oxygen I would need to spend to express my discomfort. It's really, really not a big deal. The fact that some people are extraordinarily high-stress and enjoy making problems out of nothing should not be our concern. Let's not optimize for those people, they'll never be happy anyway.
- wkat4242 1y agoHere they tax the bags. I don't use them so much, only if I really need them. The problem is, sometimes you do need them because you had to change plans and didn't bring any bags. I don't own a car or anything where I can leave them. Often leave the house without even a backpack. And paper bags don't work when it rains or when you need to bring heavy stuff like drinks.
- kelnos 1y agoThe rain complaint is fair, but I frequent several grocery stores that only use paper bags, and when I buy heavy stuff, they just double the bags. Never have had a problem with that.
- wkat4242 1y agoHmm I often buy 3 or 4 2L bottles and in my experience that is wayy too heavy for paper bags. And my water, I buy it in 6-packs of 2L, they come plastic-wrapped with a handle so you can carry them more easily. The tapwater in my city is not drinkable.
- wkat4242 1y agoYes I oppose paper straws because they get soggy quickly, still contain plastic and of a much more dangerous type (PFAS). The old plastic straws hardly shed while drinking. The new ones the paper gets soggy and it disintegrates and leaves the pfas coating mixed into your drink. Nice... :X
- barbazoo 1y agoAlmost no one _needs_ straws to begin with. Do people really have that big an issue with drinking out of a container without one?
- wkat4242 1y agoI do, it's the ice that hurts my teeth a lot without one. And without ice it's too warm again (also on the ordering machines these days you can't select without ice). Also with alcoholic drinks eg rum colas it's easier to drink more slowly with them.
- barbazoo 1y agoSo instead of drinking more slowly and taking smaller sips we have to use a plastic device we throw away after, got it. Doesn't seem very smart to me honestly. As I said, "almost no one needs" but your example isn't what I meant. Let's say someone with a disability that can'd use a cup.