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I could be wrong but I think BMW and Mercedes still make diesel engines. So maybe it's only impossible at a lower price point? Although the difference isn't tha

I could be wrong but I think BMW and Mercedes still make diesel engines. So maybe it's only impossible at a lower price point? Although the difference isn't that large.

FridayoLeary 1y ago
Even VW never stopped selling diesel cars, but they are certainly being phased out everywhere and it's not as popular as it once was.
lhoff 1y ago
VW still builds and sells Diesel engines in its Cars. For Volkswagen and Skoda the share of diesel cars was about 30% in Germany. Source (only in German and behind paywall, sorry) https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/468422/umfrage/pkw-neuzulassungen-diesel-anteil-der-automarken/ https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/468422/umfrag...
Symbiote 1y ago
Using [1], BMW have 87 models, of which 13 can be electric, 13 plug-in hybrid, 47 petrol and just 6 diesel. The six are all SUVs. Mercedes don't have an easy filter, but they do have some cars available with diesel engines, e.g. C-Class. Diesel is now down to 9.5% of new cars sold in Europe (Q1 2025), less than full EVs ([2]). [1] https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/all-models.html https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/all-models.html [2] https://www.acea.auto/pc-registrations/new-car-registrations-1-9-in-q1-2025-battery-electric-15-2-market-share/ https://www.acea.auto/pc-registrations/new-car-registrations...
- lucianbr 1y ago
  There are several 3 series diesel variants sold right now in my country, so maybe we need a bit more data gathering before drawing conclusions. It does seem like diesel is trending lower, but it's not gone yet, regardless whether you think that is a good thing or not. In any case, my point was this: > it would be impossible to create diesel engines which would comply with enviromental standards is false. Which it is. Or multiple car manufacturers are still cheating, I guess we must consider the possibility.
SoftTalker 1y ago
They do make them, but they don't sell them in the USA any more. Nobody does.

I could be wrong but I think BMW and Mercedes still make diesel engines. So maybe it's only impossible at a lower price point? Although the difference isn't that large.

FridayoLeary 1y ago

Even VW never stopped selling diesel cars, but they are certainly being phased out everywhere and it's not as popular as it once was.

lhoff 1y ago

VW still builds and sells Diesel engines in its Cars. For Volkswagen and Skoda the share of diesel cars was about 30% in Germany. Source (only in German and behind paywall, sorry) https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/468422/umfrage/pkw-neuzulassungen-diesel-anteil-der-automarken/ https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/468422/umfrag...

Symbiote 1y ago

Using [1], BMW have 87 models, of which 13 can be electric, 13 plug-in hybrid, 47 petrol and just 6 diesel. The six are all SUVs. Mercedes don't have an easy filter, but they do have some cars available with diesel engines, e.g. C-Class. Diesel is now down to 9.5% of new cars sold in Europe (Q1 2025), less than full EVs ([2]). [1] https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/all-models.html https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/all-models.html [2] https://www.acea.auto/pc-registrations/new-car-registrations-1-9-in-q1-2025-battery-electric-15-2-market-share/ https://www.acea.auto/pc-registrations/new-car-registrations...

lucianbr 1y ago
There are several 3 series diesel variants sold right now in my country, so maybe we need a bit more data gathering before drawing conclusions. It does seem like diesel is trending lower, but it's not gone yet, regardless whether you think that is a good thing or not. In any case, my point was this: > it would be impossible to create diesel engines which would comply with enviromental standards is false. Which it is. Or multiple car manufacturers are still cheating, I guess we must consider the possibility.

SoftTalker 1y ago

They do make them, but they don't sell them in the USA any more. Nobody does.