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Yes, a corpse killed by Facebook, Reddit, Discord and other closed platforms.

energy123 1y ago
All the negativity is public and algorithmically boosted, all the positivity is in private chats. And this is increasingly the case over time. I sincerely hope for maximum enshittification in the form of AI slop rendering these misery machines discredited in the public's mind so the spell is broken.
Spivak 1y ago
Does it actually matter that Discord is closed or would the problem still exist if Matrix won and the content contained within was nonetheless still not indexable by search engines and communities were invite only? Because the fact that Discord is flourishing is I think a direct result of it not being a part of the giant amalgamated omniplatform indexed by search engines. Being shielded from the masses is the point. There aren't megaphones in small private communities where the social dynamics of repeat interactions are in play. People aren't competing to say the most outrageous rage-bait for engagement.
- TremendousJudge 1y ago
  >People aren't competing to say the most outrageous rage-bait for engagement. This was never true in the age of web forums, which was the equivalent to Discord in many cases, and still isn't true in niche subreddits, which are public and indexed by search engines.
- oceansky 1y ago
  But the counterpoint is that it's much harder to find any information, including personal anecdotes from people, without being part of the particular community.
oceansky 1y ago
How's reddit a closed platform? It's superbly indexed by Google. In fact searching site:reddit.com often greatly improve my results.
- pphysch 1y ago
  Reddit isn't the worst offender, but it's still one profit-motivated company that can unilaterally scrub posts, users, and entire subreddits, and its infested with guerilla advertising. And the whole "new.reddit.com" thing strongly suggests that Reddit is/was evolving to be a more closed platform.

All the negativity is public and algorithmically boosted, all the positivity is in private chats. And this is increasingly the case over time. I sincerely hope for maximum enshittification in the form of AI slop rendering these misery machines discredited in the public's mind so the spell is broken.

Spivak 1y ago

Does it actually matter that Discord is closed or would the problem still exist if Matrix won and the content contained within was nonetheless still not indexable by search engines and communities were invite only? Because the fact that Discord is flourishing is I think a direct result of it not being a part of the giant amalgamated omniplatform indexed by search engines. Being shielded from the masses is the point. There aren't megaphones in small private communities where the social dynamics of repeat interactions are in play. People aren't competing to say the most outrageous rage-bait for engagement.

TremendousJudge 1y ago
>People aren't competing to say the most outrageous rage-bait for engagement. This was never true in the age of web forums, which was the equivalent to Discord in many cases, and still isn't true in niche subreddits, which are public and indexed by search engines.
oceansky 1y ago
But the counterpoint is that it's much harder to find any information, including personal anecdotes from people, without being part of the particular community.

oceansky 1y ago

How's reddit a closed platform? It's superbly indexed by Google. In fact searching site:reddit.com often greatly improve my results.

pphysch 1y ago
Reddit isn't the worst offender, but it's still one profit-motivated company that can unilaterally scrub posts, users, and entire subreddits, and its infested with guerilla advertising. And the whole "new.reddit.com" thing strongly suggests that Reddit is/was evolving to be a more closed platform.