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We have numerous good options to deal with high blood pressure, I wouldn't say this is really a problem. Many people take medicine for high blood pressure and l

We have numerous good options to deal with high blood pressure, I wouldn't say this is really a problem. Many people take medicine for high blood pressure and live the rest of their lives completely unhampered.

hombre_fatal 1y ago
Many people don’t take them nor do they want the side effects, so of course it’s a problem. Every heart attack story I know of off the top of my head involves a man who didn’t want to take his blood pressure meds.
- Etheryte 1y ago
  This is a good example of survivorship bias. You're fixated on the few heart attacks you do know and overlooking the vast troves of people who never developed issues once treated.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    No, the survivorship bias is having high blood pressure and being fine. It greatly increases your risk of heart attack, stroke, and heart failure. Hypertension is dangerous in the long-term. Most smokers don't die of lung cancer - they die of hypertension.
elric 1y ago
> live the rest of their lives completely unhampered Blood pressure medication has numerous side effects. Increased blood pressure during sleep is the worst kind of hypertension ("reverse dipping").
lm28469 1y ago
Virtually any pill you have to take for life has negative side effects. Medicine made serious progress in all kind of ways but we don't have magic pills yet, even simple things like fixing a broken bone "only" has a 90-95% success rate without complications. Stay in shape, eat clean an exercise, once it's gone it's gone for good
- AtlasBarfed 1y ago
  AI can be timed for cures, or for "health regimens". Which one do you think the drug companies like?
- Etheryte 1y ago
  This largely misses the point. While many people develop high blood pressure due to lifestyle choices, there's also a large amount of people who have high blood pressure for completely unrelated reasons. Staying fit and healthy is good, but it doesn't protect you against the genetic lottery.
  - lm28469 1y ago
    Hypertension isn't a boolean flag, exercising and having a clean diet helps tremendously regardless. 50% of Americans have hypertension, 75% are overweight or obese, there is a massive overlap between the two
- AaronAPU 1y ago
  Many people have high blood pressure in spite of being in the top percentage of health and fitness. It gets tiring seeing people blame it on lack of exercise. Genetics is a thing.
  - lm28469 1y ago
    Sure, that being said 75% of the west is overweight or obese... which aggravates basically any illness you can think of. Statistically speaking the extreme vast majority of people with high blood pressure, or anything else for that matter, aren't in the top percentage of anything positive health or fitness related
- const_cast 1y ago
  > Stay in shape, eat clean an exercise, once it's gone it's gone for good No, not at all. Getting rid of your hypertension through lifestyle doesn't mean it's gone for good. You have to maintain that lifestyle. And, even if you do, if your hypertension is genetic you're probably just delaying the inevitable.

hombre_fatal 1y ago

Many people don’t take them nor do they want the side effects, so of course it’s a problem. Every heart attack story I know of off the top of my head involves a man who didn’t want to take his blood pressure meds.

Etheryte 1y ago
This is a good example of survivorship bias. You're fixated on the few heart attacks you do know and overlooking the vast troves of people who never developed issues once treated.
- const_cast 1y ago
  No, the survivorship bias is having high blood pressure and being fine. It greatly increases your risk of heart attack, stroke, and heart failure. Hypertension is dangerous in the long-term. Most smokers don't die of lung cancer - they die of hypertension.

elric 1y ago

> live the rest of their lives completely unhampered Blood pressure medication has numerous side effects. Increased blood pressure during sleep is the worst kind of hypertension ("reverse dipping").

lm28469 1y ago

Virtually any pill you have to take for life has negative side effects. Medicine made serious progress in all kind of ways but we don't have magic pills yet, even simple things like fixing a broken bone "only" has a 90-95% success rate without complications. Stay in shape, eat clean an exercise, once it's gone it's gone for good

AtlasBarfed 1y ago
AI can be timed for cures, or for "health regimens". Which one do you think the drug companies like?
Etheryte 1y ago
This largely misses the point. While many people develop high blood pressure due to lifestyle choices, there's also a large amount of people who have high blood pressure for completely unrelated reasons. Staying fit and healthy is good, but it doesn't protect you against the genetic lottery.
- lm28469 1y ago
  Hypertension isn't a boolean flag, exercising and having a clean diet helps tremendously regardless. 50% of Americans have hypertension, 75% are overweight or obese, there is a massive overlap between the two
AaronAPU 1y ago
Many people have high blood pressure in spite of being in the top percentage of health and fitness. It gets tiring seeing people blame it on lack of exercise. Genetics is a thing.
- lm28469 1y ago
  Sure, that being said 75% of the west is overweight or obese... which aggravates basically any illness you can think of. Statistically speaking the extreme vast majority of people with high blood pressure, or anything else for that matter, aren't in the top percentage of anything positive health or fitness related
const_cast 1y ago
> Stay in shape, eat clean an exercise, once it's gone it's gone for good No, not at all. Getting rid of your hypertension through lifestyle doesn't mean it's gone for good. You have to maintain that lifestyle. And, even if you do, if your hypertension is genetic you're probably just delaying the inevitable.