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You’ll usually find three kinds of people talking about LLMs online: 1. The ones writing Medium posts about being 100x more productive. 2. The skeptics, like y

You’ll usually find three kinds of people talking about LLMs online: 1. The ones writing Medium posts about being 100x more productive. 2. The skeptics, like yourself, who construct made-up examples to prove it’s impossible to get value, framing things in a way where failure is the only plausible outcome. 3. And then there’s the middle group, people quietly getting real, uneven, but worthwhile value. You’d be surprised. The vast majority of engineering isn’t that unique. Usefulness often depends on the age of the codebase and the dynamics of the team. I’m firmly in the middle camp: far from perfect, but I get real value from these tools as they stand today. It’s like having a junior engineer who can scaffold out the basics so I can spend my mental energy on the parts that actually matter.

soraminazuki 1y ago
GP didn't "construct made-up examples" anywhere in this thread as of the time of writing this post. Where did you hallucinate that from? Seriously, why is every comment hyping up AI generated code like this. No concrete evidence, just turtles all the way down. But when actual examples do show up, it's a complete clown show [1][2]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44050152 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44050152 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43907376 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43907376
- infecto 1y ago
  He definitely crafted the narrative he wanted, you see that just as much from skeptics as from the hype crowd. I still stand by what I said: there are always three camps in any LLM discussion. No hallucinations here, I can see where you land. I’m here for a constructive argument, and I believe there’s a real middle ground where LLMs are creating tangible value, even for experienced engineers. Your links about GitHub agents may be spot-on, I haven’t used them myself, so no strong opinion there. Same with Codex; it’s early. But why not mention tools like Cursor or Windsurf? Or the open source alternatives. That’s where people are seeing actual gains today. Why go all-in on anti-hype without talking about your direct experience?
  - soraminazuki 1y ago
    So you shifted from "constructing made-up examples" to "crafting narratives." In plainer terms, your accusation downgraded from calling someone a liar to merely suggesting that they are making an argument. Is the latter accusation supposed to be a bad thing in discussions? Anyways if you want to hear my direct experience, I reviewed AI generated code. It couldn't get a simple map, reduce, and filter right. I personally wouldn't waste my coworker's time with such slop. I'm happier coding with existing tools for boilerplate generation and code completion, along with my own brain. Much more predictable and reliable.

soraminazuki 1y ago

GP didn't "construct made-up examples" anywhere in this thread as of the time of writing this post. Where did you hallucinate that from? Seriously, why is every comment hyping up AI generated code like this. No concrete evidence, just turtles all the way down. But when actual examples do show up, it's a complete clown show [1][2]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44050152 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44050152 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43907376 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43907376

infecto 1y ago
He definitely crafted the narrative he wanted, you see that just as much from skeptics as from the hype crowd. I still stand by what I said: there are always three camps in any LLM discussion. No hallucinations here, I can see where you land. I’m here for a constructive argument, and I believe there’s a real middle ground where LLMs are creating tangible value, even for experienced engineers. Your links about GitHub agents may be spot-on, I haven’t used them myself, so no strong opinion there. Same with Codex; it’s early. But why not mention tools like Cursor or Windsurf? Or the open source alternatives. That’s where people are seeing actual gains today. Why go all-in on anti-hype without talking about your direct experience?
- soraminazuki 1y ago
  So you shifted from "constructing made-up examples" to "crafting narratives." In plainer terms, your accusation downgraded from calling someone a liar to merely suggesting that they are making an argument. Is the latter accusation supposed to be a bad thing in discussions? Anyways if you want to hear my direct experience, I reviewed AI generated code. It couldn't get a simple map, reduce, and filter right. I personally wouldn't waste my coworker's time with such slop. I'm happier coding with existing tools for boilerplate generation and code completion, along with my own brain. Much more predictable and reliable.