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> outsourcing for software fizzled out Any data on that? I see everyone trying to outsource as much as they can. Sure, now it is moving toward AI, but every co
by anonzzzies 1y ago
> outsourcing for software fizzled out
Any data on that? I see everyone trying to outsource as much as they can. Sure, now it is moving toward AI, but every company I walk into have 10-1000s of FTEs in outsource countries.
I see most fortune 1000 companies here doing some type of agile/planningexecution which is in fact more waterfall. The people here in the west are more management and client facing, the rest is 'thrown over the fence'.
- ccppurcell 1y agoThe point being made here is that the biggest software companies still employ lots of programmers but the biggest manufacturing companies don't employ lots of factory workers. I don't think you need data just think about Microsoft vs General Motors etc etc
- anonzzzies 1y agoSure, but my claim is that these things are still outsourced en masse and nothing fizzled out from that perspective.
- decimalenough 1y agoIf they're FTEs, that's not outsourcing, it's moving your employees to a cheaper location. Outsourcing means laying off your FTEs and shoving the entire project over to a WITCH consulting shop.
- anonzzzies 1y agoFTE for lack of a better word: they are not employees of the company, they are full-time working for the company; they are employed by some outsourcing place. FTE I guess means employee of the western country and that they are not, but what would be the term? Full time remote worker?
- mrheosuper 1y agoMaybe you mean "contractor" ?
- alternatex 1y agoA lot of those deals between western companies and companies in developing countries are not fixed-time contracts but ongoing collaborations.
- anonzzzies 1y agoAnd that is not outsourcing? Definitely called that here...
- b800h 1y agoIt did fizzle out the first time round. It won't on this occasion.