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Guy would really benefit from learning some manners. Just comes across as painfully toxic no matter how correct he is. edit: For what it's worth, if you can't

Guy would really benefit from learning some manners. Just comes across as painfully toxic no matter how correct he is. edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic.

Havoc 1y ago
Well he called sony fudge packers in a youtube rap dis track after they sued him so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg
gsf_emergency 1y ago
Geohot is the voodoo medication I (secretly) take everyday
throwawaythekey 1y ago
Not trying to flame or anything but what is your age? As someone in my early 30's who grew up on message boards/gaming the language he is using is fairly mild. I think we just have very different social norms.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  > As someone in my early 30's who grew up on message boards/gaming That’s an extremely low bar. Nobody would bat an eye about a random person speaking like this on a gaming Discord or a message board. Posting public messages as a public figure with an audience to a company is not the same as Call of Duty voice chat.
  - throwawaythekey 1y ago
    Yes and to me it is a fine tone for all of 'hacker' culture if you will. Perhaps not if you were giving a presentation to your boss, but as this is a message between peers it seems fine. If it were on x it would seem fine.
vasco 1y ago
> you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way Who's the people of a certain caliber? Are there people who can talk like this and others that are better people which shouldn't? What weird thing to say.
- throwaway314155 1y ago
  People hold geohot in high esteem (caliber). I'm saying that doesn't excuse the behavior. I think we're in agreement.
sothatsit 1y ago
> edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic. Personally, I prefer direct language if it gets to the root of the problem quicker. It's more pragmatic. You just have to pick your audience, because some people get offended by it. But the most productive discussions I've had have been arguments where you can both quickly find the holes in each other's positions, and then move forwards from there. As long as no one is taking it personally, this is very effective. OTOH, I've been in many meetings where people talk around a problem for an hour, never reaching the conflict about what their disagreement actually is. To me, that is much more frustrating than someone risking offending someone by being direct. But it really depends upon the people you work with and the team you have.
- yallpendantools 1y ago
  There's a line between rude/toxic and direct/pragmatic. The whole world at large would be much better off if we made that distinction. Also, that both tones can be found in the same piece of prose; we don't have to label a whole piece as one or the other. > If you want a dataflow graph compiler, build a dataflow graph compiler. > This is not 6 layers of abstraction, it's 3 (and only 2 you have to build). This is direct and pragmatic. It states the writer's justified true beliefs and opinions as plainly as possible. > Plz bro one more stack this stack will be good i promise > bro bro bro plz one more make it all back one trade type beat This is just toxic. The writer is making assumptions about other people's position that he does not (and probably could not) substantiate. Ironically, sprinkling in toxic comments and back-handed insults in any piece has the effect of making said piece less direct and pragmatic.
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  - sothatsit 1y ago
    True, but I just fear that people tend to throw the baby out with the bath water, opting for safe rather than effective communication. Only like 4 lines of what geohot said are problematic. Would it be better if they weren't there? Yes. But, it's also not as egregious as you and that throwaway account make it out to be. It's more just annoying.
arresin 1y ago
He doesth come acrosth as tothic. Yucky! Georgie hotsth u r yucky and tocthic!
- throwaway314155 1y ago
  Guess I'm too much of a "limp wrist milquetoast" for your tastes. Good luck with all that.

Havoc 1y ago

Well he called sony fudge packers in a youtube rap dis track after they sued him so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg

gsf_emergency 1y ago

Geohot is the voodoo medication I (secretly) take everyday

throwawaythekey 1y ago

Not trying to flame or anything but what is your age? As someone in my early 30's who grew up on message boards/gaming the language he is using is fairly mild. I think we just have very different social norms.

Aurornis 1y ago
> As someone in my early 30's who grew up on message boards/gaming That’s an extremely low bar. Nobody would bat an eye about a random person speaking like this on a gaming Discord or a message board. Posting public messages as a public figure with an audience to a company is not the same as Call of Duty voice chat.
- throwawaythekey 1y ago
  Yes and to me it is a fine tone for all of 'hacker' culture if you will. Perhaps not if you were giving a presentation to your boss, but as this is a message between peers it seems fine. If it were on x it would seem fine.

vasco 1y ago

> you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way Who's the people of a certain caliber? Are there people who can talk like this and others that are better people which shouldn't? What weird thing to say.

throwaway314155 1y ago
People hold geohot in high esteem (caliber). I'm saying that doesn't excuse the behavior. I think we're in agreement.

sothatsit 1y ago

> edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic. Personally, I prefer direct language if it gets to the root of the problem quicker. It's more pragmatic. You just have to pick your audience, because some people get offended by it. But the most productive discussions I've had have been arguments where you can both quickly find the holes in each other's positions, and then move forwards from there. As long as no one is taking it personally, this is very effective. OTOH, I've been in many meetings where people talk around a problem for an hour, never reaching the conflict about what their disagreement actually is. To me, that is much more frustrating than someone risking offending someone by being direct. But it really depends upon the people you work with and the team you have.

yallpendantools 1y ago
There's a line between rude/toxic and direct/pragmatic. The whole world at large would be much better off if we made that distinction. Also, that both tones can be found in the same piece of prose; we don't have to label a whole piece as one or the other. > If you want a dataflow graph compiler, build a dataflow graph compiler. > This is not 6 layers of abstraction, it's 3 (and only 2 you have to build). This is direct and pragmatic. It states the writer's justified true beliefs and opinions as plainly as possible. > Plz bro one more stack this stack will be good i promise > bro bro bro plz one more make it all back one trade type beat This is just toxic. The writer is making assumptions about other people's position that he does not (and probably could not) substantiate. Ironically, sprinkling in toxic comments and back-handed insults in any piece has the effect of making said piece less direct and pragmatic.
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- sothatsit 1y ago
  True, but I just fear that people tend to throw the baby out with the bath water, opting for safe rather than effective communication. Only like 4 lines of what geohot said are problematic. Would it be better if they weren't there? Yes. But, it's also not as egregious as you and that throwaway account make it out to be. It's more just annoying.

arresin 1y ago

He doesth come acrosth as tothic. Yucky! Georgie hotsth u r yucky and tocthic!

throwaway314155 1y ago
Guess I'm too much of a "limp wrist milquetoast" for your tastes. Good luck with all that.