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geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred and walks the walk. I wish there was a thousand more geohots than all the mediocre middle-managers at AM

geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred and walks the walk. I wish there was a thousand more geohots than all the mediocre middle-managers at AMD or tenstorrent; or people who have never done anything beyond posting snarky comments in online forums.

Aurornis 1y ago
> geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred Sadly, I think geohot is an example of someone who earned some cred for impressive accomplishments in the past and then tried to cash in that cred over and over again in unrelated future domains. His brief and very public flame out at Twitter after mysteriously abandoning another project and the bold claims about his AMD work that never really translated to anything have really detracted from whatever past “cred” he built up. I really hope he can find a new niche and succeed, but until then it might be time to lie low on social media and avoid throwing more mud.
- moralestapia 1y ago
  >geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred >I think geohot is an example of someone who earned some cred for impressive accomplishments in the past [...] Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote.
  - Aurornis 1y ago
    > Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote. You cut out the part of my post where I made my point. Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth.
    - moralestapia 1y ago
      Then I don't get the point you're trying to make. >Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth. What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy. And still, I'd rather listen to geohot rambling about whatever he wants to say, than some randos on the internet who have accomplished nothing but "arguing". Respect is not a right, it is earned, he's earned mine.
      - lostmsu 1y ago
        Really you shouldn't need to know who is saying what. Words have merit, people can only have trust.
        moralestapia 1y ago
        That's true!
      - catgary 1y ago
        I don’t know what you’re talking about here. You can run your mouth as much as you like…you just become a laughingstock at a certain point. Nobody is calling for geohot to be silenced.
      - Aurornis 1y ago
        > What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy. This is obtuse. I obviously wasn’t talking about human rights or the 1st amendment. I was saying it’s illogical to suggest that because someone did one impressive thing in another domain a long time ago, we should therefore continue to value their input on every topic forever.
        catgary 1y ago
        Yeah, the dude has managed to catch nobelitis for the amazing achievement of…jailbreaking iOS as a teenager.
        moralestapia 1y ago
        >jailbreaking iOS as a teenager Let's see your code. comma.ai is an impressive achievement on its own!
runlevel1 1y ago
> but he has earned the cred and walks the walk. One of the lessons I wish I'd learned earlier is that indulging bombastic behavior neither benefits them nor you. Strong opinions, weakly held are good. Well-reasoned opinions to the contrary are even encouraged. Provided, of course, that they're smart enough to know when to persist and when to disagree and commit. If you just indulge it, they end up with the engineering equivalent of Nobelitis. And if they're on your team, you end up with more burden than asset no matter how brilliant they are.

Aurornis 1y ago

> geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred Sadly, I think geohot is an example of someone who earned some cred for impressive accomplishments in the past and then tried to cash in that cred over and over again in unrelated future domains. His brief and very public flame out at Twitter after mysteriously abandoning another project and the bold claims about his AMD work that never really translated to anything have really detracted from whatever past “cred” he built up. I really hope he can find a new niche and succeed, but until then it might be time to lie low on social media and avoid throwing more mud.

moralestapia 1y ago
>geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred >I think geohot is an example of someone who earned some cred for impressive accomplishments in the past [...] Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  > Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote. You cut out the part of my post where I made my point. Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth.
  - moralestapia 1y ago
    Then I don't get the point you're trying to make. >Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth. What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy. And still, I'd rather listen to geohot rambling about whatever he wants to say, than some randos on the internet who have accomplished nothing but "arguing". Respect is not a right, it is earned, he's earned mine.
    - lostmsu 1y ago
      Really you shouldn't need to know who is saying what. Words have merit, people can only have trust.
      - moralestapia 1y ago
        That's true!
    - catgary 1y ago
      I don’t know what you’re talking about here. You can run your mouth as much as you like…you just become a laughingstock at a certain point. Nobody is calling for geohot to be silenced.
    - Aurornis 1y ago
      > What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy. This is obtuse. I obviously wasn’t talking about human rights or the 1st amendment. I was saying it’s illogical to suggest that because someone did one impressive thing in another domain a long time ago, we should therefore continue to value their input on every topic forever.
      - catgary 1y ago
        Yeah, the dude has managed to catch nobelitis for the amazing achievement of…jailbreaking iOS as a teenager.
        moralestapia 1y ago
        >jailbreaking iOS as a teenager Let's see your code. comma.ai is an impressive achievement on its own!

runlevel1 1y ago

> but he has earned the cred and walks the walk. One of the lessons I wish I'd learned earlier is that indulging bombastic behavior neither benefits them nor you. Strong opinions, weakly held are good. Well-reasoned opinions to the contrary are even encouraged. Provided, of course, that they're smart enough to know when to persist and when to disagree and commit. If you just indulge it, they end up with the engineering equivalent of Nobelitis. And if they're on your team, you end up with more burden than asset no matter how brilliant they are.