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No one knows how to increase the birth rate. And all the studies show that immigration increases the budget deficit, not reduces it (at least in that way in whi

by Ray20 1y ago

No one knows how to increase the birth rate. And all the studies show that immigration increases the budget deficit, not reduces it (at least in that way in which it is being implemented now).

AdrianB1 1y ago
Actually the factors inhibiting birth rate are well known, but the actions to take are not something states wants to take. In Europe you cannot even talk about it, usually, unless you talk to younger family members and ask them why they don't want kids at or or just 1 or 2 max. There are economic, education and legal aspects that are clear for anyone that looked not farther than 50 years ago when having 3-4 kids was not exceptional.
vbezhenar 1y ago
Everyone knows. Stop contraception, stop woman education, stop abortions, reduce woman rights to 1800. Remove children rights, make environment where children are productive and bring profits to their parents, so they have financial incentive to create children. No one wants to implement it.
- const_cast 1y ago
  Right, if anyone here has taken a human geography course this is the obvious answer. This is why birthrate was so high for so long. As nations developed and gained rights for women, it went lower and lower and lower. And it makes complete sense. The reality is having a child kind of sucks for a woman, and I, nor anyone else, can blame a large portion of women for just saying "eh... no". I would probably say no, too, although it's hard to tell, because I'm not a woman. Having children was once a boon, because conditions were shit. Now it's a burden. So, people will treat it as a burden. Either make it less burdensome or revert women. Nobody wants to do the latter, so we must do the former. We have to invest in children, because children are a Nation's investment.
- geodel 1y ago
  You are right. Since that is not happening the next best thing is to juice the oldies. At least more countries have started doing that.
- streptomycin 1y ago
  Here is a chart of Saudi Arabia's fertility rate, which has dropped from 7 to 2 over the past 40 years: https://www.consultancy-me.com/illustrations/news/detail/2023-01-17-093254853-Saudi_fertility_rate_at_record_lows.jpg https://www.consultancy-me.com/illustrations/news/detail/202...
AngryData 1y ago
Not having to work as much to live seems like a decent way to increase birthrates. Having kids is/would be much easier if parents were at home more often and able to care for kids instead of contracting out childcare to daycare centers because you cannot afford to not have both parents working full time. But it comes at the cost of not growing as fast and being less attractive to capital investors/owners who are reaping by far the highest percentage of profits currently.

by Ray20 1y ago

No one knows how to increase the birth rate. And all the studies show that immigration increases the budget deficit, not reduces it (at least in that way in which it is being implemented now).

AdrianB1 1y ago

Actually the factors inhibiting birth rate are well known, but the actions to take are not something states wants to take. In Europe you cannot even talk about it, usually, unless you talk to younger family members and ask them why they don't want kids at or or just 1 or 2 max. There are economic, education and legal aspects that are clear for anyone that looked not farther than 50 years ago when having 3-4 kids was not exceptional.

vbezhenar 1y ago

Everyone knows. Stop contraception, stop woman education, stop abortions, reduce woman rights to 1800. Remove children rights, make environment where children are productive and bring profits to their parents, so they have financial incentive to create children. No one wants to implement it.

const_cast 1y ago
Right, if anyone here has taken a human geography course this is the obvious answer. This is why birthrate was so high for so long. As nations developed and gained rights for women, it went lower and lower and lower. And it makes complete sense. The reality is having a child kind of sucks for a woman, and I, nor anyone else, can blame a large portion of women for just saying "eh... no". I would probably say no, too, although it's hard to tell, because I'm not a woman. Having children was once a boon, because conditions were shit. Now it's a burden. So, people will treat it as a burden. Either make it less burdensome or revert women. Nobody wants to do the latter, so we must do the former. We have to invest in children, because children are a Nation's investment.
geodel 1y ago
You are right. Since that is not happening the next best thing is to juice the oldies. At least more countries have started doing that.
streptomycin 1y ago
Here is a chart of Saudi Arabia's fertility rate, which has dropped from 7 to 2 over the past 40 years: https://www.consultancy-me.com/illustrations/news/detail/2023-01-17-093254853-Saudi_fertility_rate_at_record_lows.jpg https://www.consultancy-me.com/illustrations/news/detail/202...

AngryData 1y ago

Not having to work as much to live seems like a decent way to increase birthrates. Having kids is/would be much easier if parents were at home more often and able to care for kids instead of contracting out childcare to daycare centers because you cannot afford to not have both parents working full time. But it comes at the cost of not growing as fast and being less attractive to capital investors/owners who are reaping by far the highest percentage of profits currently.