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> But know you have to keep doing this forever. Or to work for yourself or in an environment where you get the gains, not the employer Or, you know, being a m
by ath3nd 1y ago
> But know you have to keep doing this forever. Or to work for yourself or in an environment where you get the gains, not the employer
Or, you know, being a member of society, you can find other members of society who feel like you, and organize together to place demands on employers that...you know...stops them from exploiting you.
- That's how you got the weekend: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200117-the-modern-phenomenon-of-the-weekend https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200117-the-modern-phe...
- And that's how you got the 8-hour working week: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day_movement
- And that's how you got children off the factories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labour https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labour
But, you know, you can always hustle against your fellow SEs, and try to appease your masters. Where others work the bare minimum of 8 hours, why not work 12, and also on the weekend? It's also fine.
Generating shareholder value is very important for the well-being of society! /s
- pbw 1y agoBy all means “organize together to place demands on your employers”. I didn’t say don’t do that. But there are 24 hours in a day — maybe strive to be good at your job AND organize instead of doing just one or the other?
- ath3nd 1y agoI'd argue we'll be better at our jobs if we took pride in our craft and were treated with dignity and respect rather than like replaceable cogs in a machine that have to compete with one another to stay "competitive".
- wiseowise 1y agoNot everything is about society.
- blablablerg 1y agoWho claimed that?
- wiseowise 1y ago> Generating shareholder value is very important for the well-being of society!
- ath3nd 1y agoShould I be worried about the shareholders? While we are it, how about also removing the few environmental regulations and worker protection laws we still have, just so the poor poor shareholders can buy another yacht? /s "Stonks go up" is not a proxy for success. Success is when pharma executives don't tremble like the villains they are from hearing the name of Mario's little brother. Success is when normal people get from the social contract at least as much as they put in. If we, the people, get less than from the social contract that we put in, as we nowadays observe, I can guarantee you we will break down the social contract, and the ones having most to lose from that are your precious stakeholders.
- ath3nd 1y agoAs a member of society, a lot of things in your life should be about society. And none of those things is shareholder value. In fact, most people would have a version of this pyramid in order of importance: 1. Personal mental and physical well-being and the same for your loved ones 2. Healthy and functioning society and robust social safety nets, e.g retirement, paid leave, social housing, public transport etc ... 1337. The composition of sand on Mars ... ... ... ... 4206919111337. Shareholder value