> Then for another 3 day hike where I used it to boil water for two persons it took so long that other people were done eating where we started. There's quite

> Then for another 3 day hike where I used it to boil water for two persons it took so long that other people were done eating where we started. There's quite a spread between the heating output of alcohol stoves. # Of holes, alu vs. Ti vs. brass, filler materials (if any). Some have simmer rings, some don't. Outside temps matter too. The trick is to use it a # of times before you go out camping / backpacking. So that you're familiar with its behavior. Disclaimer: cooking daily on a deluxe model (Origo 3000). Safest method to cook on a boat. Propane/butane burners are easier to regulate, but these gasses have the nasty habit of sticking to the floor. So a leak could cause a deadly explosion (which happens semi-regularly). That Origo: I could flip the whole thing over while burning & it wouldn't start a fire. Can't remove the burner from the stove while it's on due to a safety catch. Also have a Trangia stashed somewhere (just the burner not pots/holder). Also used many times. Both Swedish design & highly recommended. Cheap/ubiquitous fuel is a big plus too. Sadly the Origo isn't made anymore afaik.