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How is it poetic justice? Were we advocating for automation?

by Braxton1980 1y ago

Mistletoe 1y ago
You were writing all the code for automation.
- devnullbrain 1y ago
  This is the message between the lines of much of the anti-dev schadenfreude, but actually spelling it out makes it obvious: it's not true. Only a minority of dev jobs are automating people out of work. There are entirely new industries like game dev that can't exist without it. Software development has gained such a political whipping-boy status, you'd be forgiven for forgetting it's been the route to the middle classes for a lot of people who would otherwise be too common, weird or foreign.
- exe34 1y ago
  The kind of automation I write is stuff that wouldn't get done if person had to do it. But with automation, it becomes possible and profitable.
  - sokoloff 1y ago
    I think a lot of genAI coding efficiency will have the same property: costs will go down to the point where things that couldn’t be done affordably in software in 2020 will be affordable in 2030. That could well result in a net increase in tech employment.
    - exe34 1y ago
      I'm surprised people aren't using it to churn out javascript framework after framework - is that not the done thing anymore?
perching_aix 1y ago
> How is it poetic justice? Were we advocating for automation? Yes? I know I did, still do, and will continue to at least.
- Braxton1980 1y ago
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  - tomhow 1y ago
    Please don't comment like this on Hacker News. Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Pet_Ant 1y ago
Email made the corporate mailroom obsolete and the letter carrier.
- devnullbrain 1y ago
  So would it be poetic justice when an electrician gets laid off?
  - Pet_Ant 1y ago
    More like if the motor maker gets replaced by a motorised machine. And yeah, that’s poetic. The electrician is more like the person laying fibre optic cable.
- Braxton1980 1y ago
  Did the inventor of the SMTP protocol get laid off?

How is it poetic justice? Were we advocating for automation?

Mistletoe 1y ago

You were writing all the code for automation.

devnullbrain 1y ago
This is the message between the lines of much of the anti-dev schadenfreude, but actually spelling it out makes it obvious: it's not true. Only a minority of dev jobs are automating people out of work. There are entirely new industries like game dev that can't exist without it. Software development has gained such a political whipping-boy status, you'd be forgiven for forgetting it's been the route to the middle classes for a lot of people who would otherwise be too common, weird or foreign.
exe34 1y ago
The kind of automation I write is stuff that wouldn't get done if person had to do it. But with automation, it becomes possible and profitable.
- sokoloff 1y ago
  I think a lot of genAI coding efficiency will have the same property: costs will go down to the point where things that couldn’t be done affordably in software in 2020 will be affordable in 2030. That could well result in a net increase in tech employment.
  - exe34 1y ago
    I'm surprised people aren't using it to churn out javascript framework after framework - is that not the done thing anymore?

perching_aix 1y ago

> How is it poetic justice? Were we advocating for automation? Yes? I know I did, still do, and will continue to at least.

Braxton1980 1y ago
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- tomhow 1y ago
  Please don't comment like this on Hacker News. Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Pet_Ant 1y ago

Email made the corporate mailroom obsolete and the letter carrier.

devnullbrain 1y ago
So would it be poetic justice when an electrician gets laid off?
- Pet_Ant 1y ago
  More like if the motor maker gets replaced by a motorised machine. And yeah, that’s poetic. The electrician is more like the person laying fibre optic cable.
Braxton1980 1y ago
Did the inventor of the SMTP protocol get laid off?