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Part of the problem they had just before the switch to ribbons (i.e. with Office 2003) is how they were semi-hiding not-commonly-used menu items by default, so

Part of the problem they had just before the switch to ribbons (i.e. with Office 2003) is how they were semi-hiding not-commonly-used menu items by default, so that you had to click an arrow-button on the bottom of the menu to get the full set if items. I have to say that from my experience, ribbons make it harder for people to remember where buttons/functionality is located, and harder to remember that it even exists, relative to full menus + toolbars. And yet - newbies used to MS Office keep clamoring for ribbons, ribbons, ribbons (e.g. in LibreOffice).

senkora 1y ago
There is now a toggle to switch LibreOffice to a ribbon UI: https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-ribbon-interface/ https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-ribbon-interface/
- einpoklum 1y ago
  In LibreOffice, on the menus, you can choose View > User Interface... and choose one of several UI modes, including the classic menu+toolbar and a ribbon-like "tabbed" UI. That's been available for a few years already. For the upcoming 25.8 release of LibreOffice, we have decided to make the UI mode selection part of a welcome dialog on the first run - as a compromise between the majority opinion, which is that the MSO ribbon is undesirable, and the desire to make the transition easier for MSO users who expect a ribbon-like UI since that's what they're used it. The default choice will remain menus+toolbars. Also, the LO tabbed UI is not "fully-baked", and still has quite a few issues : https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107237 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107237 and more generally: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062
  - mcswell 1y ago
    And Microsoft said it would be too hard to maintain both the Ribbon and the traditional menus. Somehow LibreOffice does what Microsoft said was too hard.

senkora 1y ago

There is now a toggle to switch LibreOffice to a ribbon UI: https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-ribbon-interface/ https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-ribbon-interface/

einpoklum 1y ago
In LibreOffice, on the menus, you can choose View > User Interface... and choose one of several UI modes, including the classic menu+toolbar and a ribbon-like "tabbed" UI. That's been available for a few years already. For the upcoming 25.8 release of LibreOffice, we have decided to make the UI mode selection part of a welcome dialog on the first run - as a compromise between the majority opinion, which is that the MSO ribbon is undesirable, and the desire to make the transition easier for MSO users who expect a ribbon-like UI since that's what they're used it. The default choice will remain menus+toolbars. Also, the LO tabbed UI is not "fully-baked", and still has quite a few issues : https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107237 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107237 and more generally: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062
- mcswell 1y ago
  And Microsoft said it would be too hard to maintain both the Ribbon and the traditional menus. Somehow LibreOffice does what Microsoft said was too hard.