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It’s good that you play with your kids, and they’re not playing alone. I don't allow my kids (kindergarten and middle school) to play Roblox based on the advic

by op00to 1y ago

It’s good that you play with your kids, and they’re not playing alone. I don't allow my kids (kindergarten and middle school) to play Roblox based on the advice of a prosecutor in my town that works exclusively with child abuse, endangerment, and other crimes like that. She said Roblox and Discord are the top places right now where predators are hanging out cruising for kids to exploit. Discord makes sense, but I was surprised at Roblox. As someone who came of age in the free-wheeling early 90s bbs and early internet era (“borrowed” shell account at a local university), it’s really disappointing how exploitive the internet and gaming is, especially in spaces that could stimulate creativity.

irjustin 1y ago
> I was surprised at Roblox Any place with a large gathering of children and free form text input/chat instantly turns this into exploit. Pretty much every video game w/ chat has to deal with this. > free-wheeling early 90s bbs and early internet era In simplest terms, the predators hadn't fully adapted yet. It's sad but as with any tool that gains mass adoption it'll get both sides of the coin weaponizing it into something nefarious. In this regard I am worried about predators adapting AI tools in ways that aren't obvious and I am concerned for my children, but exactly as you say, we must "play with them" which helps ensure their safety at multiple levels.
JadoJodo 1y ago
> I don't allow my kids (kindergarten and middle school) to play Roblox based on the advice of a prosecutor in my town that works exclusively with child abuse, endangerment, and other crimes like that. I've heard the same advice from a friend who works in law enforcement in this same area (child abuse, CSAM, exploitation) for the US (federal) government. Some of the stories I've heard...
conception 1y ago
https://hindenburgresearch.com/roblox/ https://hindenburgresearch.com/roblox/ Oh yeah. Scary place.
mmooss 1y ago
> it’s really disappointing how exploitive the internet and gaming is, especially in spaces that could stimulate creativity. Think of it this way: Why don't those problems happen out on the street? Because law enforcement and public response stop them, with the former driven to a great degree by the latter. Where is that response on the Internet? Law enforcement - and much of the public, and corporations - have abidicated their responsibilities, as they have abidicated so many other responsibilities on the Internet to their communities, the consequences of their actions, even decency. Did you even consider that predatory behavior should be stopped by law enforcement and by the corporations that control these websites, or did you accept that the Internet is lawless?

by op00to 1y ago

irjustin 1y ago

> I was surprised at Roblox Any place with a large gathering of children and free form text input/chat instantly turns this into exploit. Pretty much every video game w/ chat has to deal with this. > free-wheeling early 90s bbs and early internet era In simplest terms, the predators hadn't fully adapted yet. It's sad but as with any tool that gains mass adoption it'll get both sides of the coin weaponizing it into something nefarious. In this regard I am worried about predators adapting AI tools in ways that aren't obvious and I am concerned for my children, but exactly as you say, we must "play with them" which helps ensure their safety at multiple levels.

JadoJodo 1y ago

> I don't allow my kids (kindergarten and middle school) to play Roblox based on the advice of a prosecutor in my town that works exclusively with child abuse, endangerment, and other crimes like that. I've heard the same advice from a friend who works in law enforcement in this same area (child abuse, CSAM, exploitation) for the US (federal) government. Some of the stories I've heard...

conception 1y ago

https://hindenburgresearch.com/roblox/ https://hindenburgresearch.com/roblox/ Oh yeah. Scary place.

mmooss 1y ago

> it’s really disappointing how exploitive the internet and gaming is, especially in spaces that could stimulate creativity. Think of it this way: Why don't those problems happen out on the street? Because law enforcement and public response stop them, with the former driven to a great degree by the latter. Where is that response on the Internet? Law enforcement - and much of the public, and corporations - have abidicated their responsibilities, as they have abidicated so many other responsibilities on the Internet to their communities, the consequences of their actions, even decency. Did you even consider that predatory behavior should be stopped by law enforcement and by the corporations that control these websites, or did you accept that the Internet is lawless?