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Dude at least 80% of these activities you listed cost a significant amount of money. Musical instruments are the opposite of cheap, knitting materials and art

by dangus 1y ago

Dude at least 80% of these activities you listed cost a significant amount of money. Musical instruments are the opposite of cheap, knitting materials and art materials (even the cheap stuff) costs money, you can’t legally form a NPO for free and you won’t be able to volunteer very well if you can only physically travel to the center of town on rural public transit or bicycle your way around a wide rural area. The kind of biking and hiking at the amount of distance and time we are talking about isn’t free either, a decent bicycle that can do heavy mileage will cost money to buy and maintain. Plus all these sports will cause you to burn more calories necessitating more expenditures. (Also have fun riding a bicycle everywhere on country roads with two narrow lanes and 55mph speed limits) Cooking creatively for a group isn’t really a part of a $300 survival meal planning budget, and it’ll get pretty boring without some of the kitchen equipment that helps with that hobby. In addition to that a lot of stuff that is cheap was not actually budgeted by the author of the article. In his example there’s no home internet or water budget, so even washing clothes or playing a game online isn’t in the budget.

sarchertech 1y ago
> Musical instruments are the opposite of cheap You can get a OK used guitar for $300 that will last for years. That’s a few extra shifts at the gas station. > Cooking creatively for a group isn’t really a part of a $300 survival meal planning budget, and it’ll get pretty boring without some of the kitchen equipment that helps with that hobby. If you have your own garden, you can do a lot of creative cooking cheaply. You don’t need a ton of kitchen equipment to enjoy cooking, and if you spend time searching for deals at thrift stores, yard sales, or on Facebook marketplace, you can get pretty much anything you need for almost nothing. >no home internet or ware budget Just add $1000 a year to the budget and make it $6k a year instead of 5. Adding in a few extra conveniences doesn’t materially change the author’s thesis.
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testing22321 1y ago
I bought my last guitar for $50. Cooking a huge moose roast is very cheap when you shot and butchered it yourself. (Rifle was $250) The bike I rode to work everyday cost me a case of beer. The car I drove 50,000km all over Yukon and AK , into the arctic circle a dozen+ times was $450. Registration was $13 a year. If you think you need internet and tv for entertainment, go live in the Yukon. You’ll be so busy doing unreal stuff you won’t have time to sit inside. Some people just don’t believe reality.
- dangus 1y ago
  Assuming your vehicle got around 25mpg you spent about $8000 CAD on gasoline over those 50,000km of driving. Where did that money come from? How much did your legally required car insurance cost? The median rate seems to be around $200 a month from a quick google. Just adding in the most modest vehicle completely destroys the author’s budget. I believe your reality, but I don’t believe in the amount you are romanticizing it. If it is so amazing why are you not doing it anymore? Because you just told me there’s no need for internet out there because it’s so jaw-dropping amazing, you wouldn’t spend any time on the internet arguing with a loser like me?
  - testing22321 1y ago
    > Assuming your vehicle got around 25mpg you spent about $8000 CAD on gasoline over those 50,000km of driving. Where did that money come from? Vehicle got 32-35 mpg. 1.8ltr 4 cyl with selectable 4x4. I had a job. > How much did your legally required car insurance cost? The median rate seems to be around $200 a month from a quick google. $550 a year. > Just adding in the most modest vehicle completely destroys the author’s budget. Double the authors budget and you live a wicked life and don’t have to work much. I’m talking about living in the most jaw dropping landscapes many people see in their entire lives. > I believe your reality, but I don’t believe in the amount you are romanticizing it. If it is so amazing why are you not doing it anymore? I didn’t say it was perfect, but a heck of an adventure and totally doable. I left to drive around Africa for three years. Bigger adventure. > Because you just told me there’s no need for internet out there because it’s so jaw-dropping amazing, you wouldn’t spend any time on the internet arguing with a loser like me? I’m not arguing, and you’re not a loser. I’m adding information from my own first hand experience, rather than assumptions and guesswork.

by dangus 1y ago

sarchertech 1y ago

> Musical instruments are the opposite of cheap You can get a OK used guitar for $300 that will last for years. That’s a few extra shifts at the gas station. > Cooking creatively for a group isn’t really a part of a $300 survival meal planning budget, and it’ll get pretty boring without some of the kitchen equipment that helps with that hobby. If you have your own garden, you can do a lot of creative cooking cheaply. You don’t need a ton of kitchen equipment to enjoy cooking, and if you spend time searching for deals at thrift stores, yard sales, or on Facebook marketplace, you can get pretty much anything you need for almost nothing. >no home internet or ware budget Just add $1000 a year to the budget and make it $6k a year instead of 5. Adding in a few extra conveniences doesn’t materially change the author’s thesis.

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testing22321 1y ago

I bought my last guitar for $50. Cooking a huge moose roast is very cheap when you shot and butchered it yourself. (Rifle was $250) The bike I rode to work everyday cost me a case of beer. The car I drove 50,000km all over Yukon and AK , into the arctic circle a dozen+ times was $450. Registration was $13 a year. If you think you need internet and tv for entertainment, go live in the Yukon. You’ll be so busy doing unreal stuff you won’t have time to sit inside. Some people just don’t believe reality.

dangus 1y ago
Assuming your vehicle got around 25mpg you spent about $8000 CAD on gasoline over those 50,000km of driving. Where did that money come from? How much did your legally required car insurance cost? The median rate seems to be around $200 a month from a quick google. Just adding in the most modest vehicle completely destroys the author’s budget. I believe your reality, but I don’t believe in the amount you are romanticizing it. If it is so amazing why are you not doing it anymore? Because you just told me there’s no need for internet out there because it’s so jaw-dropping amazing, you wouldn’t spend any time on the internet arguing with a loser like me?
- testing22321 1y ago
  > Assuming your vehicle got around 25mpg you spent about $8000 CAD on gasoline over those 50,000km of driving. Where did that money come from? Vehicle got 32-35 mpg. 1.8ltr 4 cyl with selectable 4x4. I had a job. > How much did your legally required car insurance cost? The median rate seems to be around $200 a month from a quick google. $550 a year. > Just adding in the most modest vehicle completely destroys the author’s budget. Double the authors budget and you live a wicked life and don’t have to work much. I’m talking about living in the most jaw dropping landscapes many people see in their entire lives. > I believe your reality, but I don’t believe in the amount you are romanticizing it. If it is so amazing why are you not doing it anymore? I didn’t say it was perfect, but a heck of an adventure and totally doable. I left to drive around Africa for three years. Bigger adventure. > Because you just told me there’s no need for internet out there because it’s so jaw-dropping amazing, you wouldn’t spend any time on the internet arguing with a loser like me? I’m not arguing, and you’re not a loser. I’m adding information from my own first hand experience, rather than assumptions and guesswork.